help! Abscess, but no infection?

[Dubs]

so a friend of mine injected 250 mg of test cyp in his left glute, everything was sterile, good injection technique/cleaning, gear is from a trusted source, and it was not his first shot with the same vial. he is very lean, 6% body fat, at 170 lbs, and has used 1" pins in his glutes before without problems.

The pin was a 23G 1"

this is what happened:

day 1 - the injection went smooth, no pain.

day 2 - pain/swelling/redness started to develop

day 3 - the above became worse, fever/general pains set in. very hard/large lump at injection site.

day 4- fever/pains start to go away, but injection site remains very painful/hot/swollen. and still very hard.

day 5 - today, he goes to the doctor, who takes a look at the site.. says "its an abscess and its infected". and prescribed keflex.

but both my friend and i were curious.. doesnt an infection usually manifest its self through a "boggy" type pocket at the injection site.. not a hard lump? As in, pitting edema is usually notable? isnt the area softer, rather than harder? maybe there isnt really an infection there, and somehow the pin didnt get deep enough, so he has a ball of oil sitting just ontop of the muscle? (he's used 1" for glute shots several times with no problems) Regardless, he is going to start the keflex.. better safe than sorry.

anyway, just wondering what you guys thought. thanks in advance.

 

[tenny]

if no fever

no infection

and i doubt its an abcess also

 

[Emery]

At any rate, Keflex is a good antibiotic for that kind of infection. Better to be safe than sorry and take the course!

 

[jalsmiley]

take the keflex, stick a 20 or 18 into the knot and see if anything comes out...even if keflex does its job you can still be ahead of the game if you relieve the presssure from the pocket...only do this if you are comfortable and confident in doing so...if not just keep with the docs advice and dont fuck with it

 

[purelifting]

take the keflex, stick a 20 or 18 into the knot and see if anything comes out...even if keflex does its job you can still be ahead of the game if you relieve the presssure from the pocket...only do this if you are comfortable and confident in doing so...if not just keep with the docs advice and dont fuck with it

Bro science; Leave this to the doctor.

 

[maldorf]

if no fever

no infection

and i doubt its an abcess also

He said day 3 fever set it.

 

[maldorf]

so a friend of mine injected 250 mg of test cyp in his left glute, everything was sterile, good injection technique/cleaning, gear is from a trusted source, and it was not his first shot with the same vial. he is very lean, 6% body fat, at 170 lbs, and has used 1" pins in his glutes before without problems.

The pin was a 23G 1"

this is what happened:

day 1 - the injection went smooth, no pain.

day 2 - pain/swelling/redness started to develop

day 3 - the above became worse, fever/general pains set in. very hard/large lump at injection site.

day 4- fever/pains start to go away, but injection site remains very painful/hot/swollen. and still very hard.

day 5 - today, he goes to the doctor, who takes a look at the site.. says "its an abscess and its infected". and prescribed keflex.

but both my friend and i were curious.. doesnt an infection usually manifest its self through a "boggy" type pocket at the injection site.. not a hard lump? As in, pitting edema is usually notable? isnt the area softer, rather than harder? maybe there isnt really an infection there, and somehow the pin didnt get deep enough, so he has a ball of oil sitting just ontop of the muscle? (he's used 1" for glute shots several times with no problems) Regardless, he is going to start the keflex.. better safe than sorry.

anyway, just wondering what you guys thought. thanks in advance.

I had a bad one once that I had to have operated on. It got just like your friends at first. I thought my body would take care of it on its own and let it go too long. Once it gets worse, the center of it will get reall soft like a white head and if you lance it youll be able to drain a shit load of puss out,. its nasty. A hollow cavity forms under the skin where all the tissue died and you have to pack it with gauze. Its a terrible thing to go through. BTW, if he had a fever then that infection was getting pretty bad.

 

[kscowboy]

We are not doctors on here so i would say to tell your friend to go see one. I know you are looking for an answer but we are talking about something that could be life threatening.

 

[Dubs]

I had a bad one once that I had to have operated on. It got just like your friends at first. I thought my body would take care of it on its own and let it go too long. Once it gets worse, the center of it will get reall soft like a white head and if you lance it youll be able to drain a shit load of puss out,. its nasty. A hollow cavity forms under the skin where all the tissue died and you have to pack it with gauze. Its a terrible thing to go through. BTW, if he had a fever then that infection was getting pretty bad.

mal, in your opinion, would it even be worth it to try and aspirate anything right now? it is DEFINITELY not soft. its a hard lump, and he is on the keflex now. the doctor told him that it wouldnt even make sense to lance it now cause its too hard. someone above in this thread said to aspirate right now? i didnt think that would make sense. He did have a fever, it only lasted about 20 hours. and may have been totally unrelated to the gear, as its kind of been going around.

We are not doctors on here so i would say to tell your friend to go see one. I know you are looking for an answer but we are talking about something that could be life threatening.

lol did you read the whole beginning post?
hes been to the doctor bro, thanks for your concern though.


Thanks for all the responses so far guys!

 

[jalsmiley]

mal, in your opinion, would it even be worth it to try and aspirate anything right now? it is DEFINITELY not soft. its a hard lump, and he is on the keflex now. the doctor told him that it wouldnt even make sense to lance it now cause its too hard. someone above in this thread said to aspirate right now? i didnt think that would make sense. He did have a fever, it only lasted about 20 hours. and may have been totally unrelated to the gear, as its kind of been going around.



lol did you read the whole beginning post?
hes been to the doctor bro, thanks for your concern though.


Thanks for all the responses so far guys!

listen...he is on keflex...so further infection isnt gonna happen unless he dips the pin in mrsa...so take a new clean 20g and aspirate, it may feel hard but you may find that a pocket of puss/blood can feel pretty damn hard sometimes...if you can shoot it, you can try and drain it..it really not a big deal


oh, and why do i say this instead of leaving it...it is possible that if left the puss could turn so thick and clumpy that you may not get it out and always a chance that it need to get cut out...if the timeline is accurate i think now or never if wanna try and drain...but in good position getting on the keflex in decent time

edit..and im not talking out of my ass....ive drained my own a NUMBER of times...im very sensitive to BA so ive had many pockets of shit that needed relief...ive also had many friends that needed surgery, and also drained them for others

 

[Dubs]

listen...he is on keflex...so further infection isnt gonna happen unless he dips the pin in mrsa...so take a new clean 20g and aspirate, it may feel hard but you may find that a pocket of puss/blood can feel pretty damn hard sometimes...if you can shoot it, you can try and drain it..it really not a big deal


oh, and why do i say this instead of leaving it...it is possible that if left the puss could turn so thick and clumpy that you may not get it out and always a chance that it need to get cut out...if the timeline is accurate i think now or never if wanna try and drain...but in good position getting on the keflex in decent time

edit..and im not talking out of my ass....ive drained my own a NUMBER of times...im very sensitive to BA so ive had many pockets of shit that needed relief...ive also had many friends that needed surgery, and also drained them for others

thanks for all the info brother.
i suppose it definitely cannot get any worse... might as well try?

 

[jalsmiley]

thanks for all the info brother.
i suppose it definitely cannot get any worse... might as well try?

just give it one good poke and try and aspirate with a 20g pin...make sure you hit knot dead middle and dont keep trying over and over again, a 20g is thick and gets dull quick..lots of scar tissue u gonna create if keep trying

 

[madmick]

Could be a sterile abcess, google it

 

[maldorf]

mal, in your opinion, would it even be worth it to try and aspirate anything right now? it is DEFINITELY not soft. its a hard lump, and he is on the keflex now. the doctor told him that it wouldnt even make sense to lance it now cause its too hard. someone above in this thread said to aspirate right now? i didnt think that would make sense. He did have a fever, it only lasted about 20 hours. and may have been totally unrelated to the gear, as its kind of been going around.



lol did you read the whole beginning post?
hes been to the doctor bro, thanks for your concern though.


Thanks for all the responses so far guys!

The doc is right, dont try to lance it cause nothin will come out. Just have to wait and see how the antibiotic works. In my case keflex didnt do shit. Whatver bacteria I had was tough. They put me on augmentin and even did antibiotics the first day through two injections! I was on antibiotics for 1 month and it never did heal. they had to go in and cut a chunk out of my ass! terrible experience.

If his fever is gone now, that is good news. if he has a fever for long it can become blood bourne and then attack the rest of his body. dangerous stuff.

Eventually if may get soft and have the soft center surrounded by the hard red swollen tissue. its kinda like when you get a bad insect bite and the inner part of it is filled with dead tissue. once that happens, you need to drain it.

 

[maldorf]

Could be a sterile abcess, google it

Not if he once had a fever. it sounds like an infected abcess. fever is gone now because hes on keflex. the thing that sucks though is that it may not heal up, like what happend with me. doing IV antiobiotics is stronger and maybe they could try that. i dont think they do the antibiotic injections much anymore, but thats what I had. Nothing healed mine though.

 

[Dubs]

The doc is right, dont try to lance it cause nothin will come out. Just have to wait and see how the antibiotic works. In my case keflex didnt do shit. Whatver bacteria I had was tough. They put me on augmentin and even did antibiotics the first day through two injections! I was on antibiotics for 1 month and it never did heal. they had to go in and cut a chunk out of my ass! terrible experience.

If his fever is gone now, that is good news. if he has a fever for long it can become blood bourne and then attack the rest of his body. dangerous stuff.

Eventually if may get soft and have the soft center surrounded by the hard red swollen tissue. its kinda like when you get a bad insect bite and the inner part of it is filled with dead tissue. once that happens, you need to drain it.

thanks for the info/experience brother.

Not if he once had a fever. it sounds like an infected abcess. fever is gone now because hes on keflex. the thing that sucks though is that it may not heal up, like what happend with me. doing IV antiobiotics is stronger and maybe they could try that. i dont think they do the antibiotic injections much anymore, but thats what I had. Nothing healed mine though.

the fever actually subsided before he started keflex.. which is why he wasnt totally convinced it was gear related.

 

[jalsmiley]

thanks for the info/experience brother.



the fever actually subsided before he started keflex.. which is why he wasnt totally convinced it was gear related.

that could just mean that his body beat it on its own...still could have been bacterial and/or gear related

 

[Ness]

The fever could be caused by the testosterone leaking into the bloodstream from the swollen injection site, ie: test fever. Ever injected into a vein by accident? You'll be feverish for a while, but it doesnt mean absolute infection.

 

[tenny]

The fever could be caused by the testosterone leaking into the bloodstream from the swollen injection site, ie: test fever. Ever injected into a vein by accident? You'll be feverish for a while, but it doesnt mean absolute infection.

agreed here

fever can be 99 or 103

if it was infected....fever would NOT have went down by itself

 

[maldorf]

agreed here

fever can be 99 or 103

if it was infected....fever would NOT have went down by itself

Yes, I would have to agree here. The fever would not clear up on its own, but rather get worse with time.