Here we go again

[Nssca]

OK.. Sure this has been beat to death but lets hear the top Pros and top Amateurs on the board say what they think...

Q: With a high protein high calorie diet. Using DC or similar training...
HOW MUCH TEST per week does it take to look like a freak. minus the tren and eq/deca.... How much test do the pros really take.
My guess is >2grams/week. maybe in short cycles.
I know genetics and GH/insulin play factors....I'm asking about test.

 

[km2000]

that is a very broad question, how much test do the pros take? I hear this question all the time, if you take 2,500mg of test per week for years you will not look like a freak if you do not eat correctly, I have a buddy that has been on 2gs of test for 2 years and is 170 lbs soakin wet. everybody thinks its about the drugs, which are a major part but you also have genitics that play a major roll, how many fast twitch fibers you have, how well you respond to gear,insulin, and gh. muscle insertion points, metabolisim, and many others. I'm sure we have all seen some kid at the gym that takes 2 sust shots a week for 3 mo and puts on like 40-50lbs and is still very lean( good responder)

 

[Kahn]

I have a buddy that has been on 2gs of test for 2 years and is 170 lbs soakin wet.

2g 2 yrs? WTF is on his mind?

 

[Moen]

that is a very broad question, how much test do the pros take? I hear this question all the time, if you take 2,500mg of test per week for years you will not look like a freak if you do not eat correctly, I have a buddy that has been on 2gs of test for 2 years and is 170 lbs soakin wet. everybody thinks its about the drugs, which are a major part but you also have genitics that play a major roll, how many fast twitch fibers you have, how well you respond to gear,insulin, and gh. muscle insertion points, metabolisim, and many others. I'm sure we have all seen some kid at the gym that takes 2 sust shots a week for 3 mo and puts on like 40-50lbs and is still very lean( good responder)

Damn, that must really suck LOL

I even feel bad if I eat 20 gr protein less on a cycle, let alone be 170 pounds on 2g testosterone haha

But seriously you sound as if your buddy is doing nothing wrong but being on that amount of testosterone and still being 170 pounds sounds almost hard to do with all the fluid retention etc

Perhaps he's been using 2g of corticosteroids all these years ?

 

[vitor]

I know that my biggest and the most ripped I have been was on 750mgs of Test per week, with 150mgs of fina EOD. Had Nice abs, was 6'1 248lbs, was like a freaking job to eat that much protein, not pick out on junk. I think it is alot of genetics, Dedication, and proper use. For the average guy working and living, dealing with family,friends, wife,kids etc who will not go pro, not much use going over 500mgs of test in my opinion.

At some point we all need to say, where am I go, what am I do, and is it worth it.

My guess though says somewhere in the 1000-1500 range base of test,.
Add in GH etc and your there