hey raj...you try those db rows?

[flexmaster]

if so man, let me know what you thought...most of the guys i train feel them REALLY well, but obviously there 1 or 2 that just cant get the right form...what did you think? it should have tore the shit outta your lats.

 

[Ivan]

hey man

Could you explain this to me? I do not get very good stretches in my lats or anywhere when I do DB rows...is there a better method to do this?

 

[flexmaster]

Could you explain this to me? I do not get very good stretches in my lats or anywhere when I do DB rows...is there a better method to do this?

sure bro...here is what i said in his thread...
i have done lat pulldowns maybe 5 times in my life...and my lats are probably my best bodypart. i have always gone super heavy on deads, which really made the high lats explode. but for lat thickness and the lower portion i love bent over db rows. everyone i train to do it my way tells me they can finally feel their LATS working. here is how i do them...
get into normal bent over db rows position on a flat bench, depending on your size i would go somewhere between 40-60lbs, somewhere aroun 15 reps to start...error on the conservative side(weight wise) because we are trying to use the lats to grow and if you cannot feel them working because you are using too much weight it's over. i keep my back at about a 40-45*angle. now anytime i do back stuff i view my hands as hooks, gripping the bar with my thumb next to my index finger. now, dont let your elbow flare out, keep it right next to your body, and pull the db to just above your hip bone. too many guys pull it up high like to thier arm pit, that works upper back rather than lats. when you get the db to your hip, try and pull your elbow behind your back. it might only go 2-3'' behind you but trust me, try it. also, get a full stretch at the bottom. dont go too fast either, control the weight. also, stretch between sets by grabbing onto a vertical bar, about hip height and lay/lean back relaxing that entire side of your body except for your fingers. again, your hand should be in a hook shape with index finger next to your thumb. hold the stretch for 30-45 sec each side. seriousy, try this and you will feel your lats exploding the next day. here's a pic of my lats/back for proof... late 19 to early 21y/o in this pic. i think this was 14-15 months time...


you know what i think i'm going to do is use my digital camera to make just like a 30 second vid showing my form on these from a few angles, i swear i have gotten GREAT growth out of doing them like these. swallow your pride a bit and dont heave the weight up but rather "pull" it up using only your lats.

 

[rAJJIN]

I sure Did buddy... Theyve become part of it and you deffinatley changed the way I do DB rows... Greatly appreciate that. It took a bit for me Because like you said you cant go as heavy as when just Yanking away on it But Im Finaly Getting more of that Mind-Muscle connection..deffinatley good advice.
I tell ya what else kicked my arse was the change from Pulldowns
to Chins... Holy cow the first two weeks my lower bicep an upper forearm
were feeling it slowly but surley getting smoother and better at them though.... On the one Nandro suggested its Very good also But I changed
it a bit and just do them on the Lower pulley,..legs straight.. chest almost to kness and Pull One arm at a time and that deffinatley hits the Lower Lat area
Ill usually finish off with them. Thanks again
raj

 

[Massive G]

I sure Did buddy... Theyve become part of it and you deffinatley changed the way I do DB rows... Greatly appreciate that. It took a bit for me Because like you said you cant go as heavy as when just Yanking away on it But Im Finaly Getting more of that Mind-Muscle connection..deffinatley good advice.
I tell ya what else kicked my arse was the change from Pulldowns
to Chins... Holy cow the first two weeks my lower bicep an upper forearm
were feeling it slowly but surley getting smoother and better at them though.... On the one Nandro suggested its Very good also But I changed
it a bit and just do them on the Lower pulley,..legs straight.. chest almost to kness and Pull One arm at a time and that deffinatley hits the Lower Lat area
Ill usually finish off with them. Thanks again
raj

What about them MG blitz rows I told ya about?

 

[rAJJIN]

MassiveG,
I thought that was Top secret..I didnt want spill anything or ruin our
client - mentor code of trust.

 

[flexmaster]

I sure Did buddy... Theyve become part of it and you deffinatley changed the way I do DB rows... Greatly appreciate that. It took a bit for me Because like you said you cant go as heavy as when just Yanking away on it But Im Finaly Getting more of that Mind-Muscle connection..deffinatley good advice.
I tell ya what else kicked my arse was the change from Pulldowns
to Chins... Holy cow the first two weeks my lower bicep an upper forearm
were feeling it slowly but surley getting smoother and better at them though.... On the one Nandro suggested its Very good also But I changed
it a bit and just do them on the Lower pulley,..legs straight.. chest almost to kness and Pull One arm at a time and that deffinatley hits the Lower Lat area
Ill usually finish off with them. Thanks again
raj

i'm glad to hear you liked them...thats awesome! i found that once i developed a really good mind muscle connection i could let my form be a LITTLE looser on the last few so i could use a little heavier weight.

you are doing rack chins too aren't you?

 

[bulldog21]

I do them tha way too flex and have seen tremendous lat development in the last two years. It is the only way I will do rows. I would like to know more about the MG Blitz rows. Could you explain how you do them?

Here are the results from two years of training them the way you were talking about: