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How important is education/specialized training to you?

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As of late I have read some threads that made me ponder a couple of things. How many of you have planned for your future by continuing your education, going to trade school, or something along those lines? Is getting a degree important to you? How have you planned for your future?
 
Education is the CHEAPEST and most REWARDING investment. If you cannot afford to go to school for a trade, then work in the field you want for free. Do anything you can. Learn the business, start your own, and do it better.
 
Its a competitive world out there, and a quality education is a great way to differentiate yourself and find a good paying job. I am actually in school now as an Economics and Marketing double major with hopes to get my MBA. A good education isn't cheap, unfortunately.. I myself am paying about 22K a year, but thats because I was lucky enough to receive multiple scholarships. My school is usually around 36,000-38,000 a year. Pricey, but its a damn good school.

I think its very valuable to either get that higher education or at least trade school of some kind. It can only lead to good things if you are smart about it (and if this economy starts heading back up any time soon!!)
 
I know there are quite a few bros on here in college and some others with advanced degrees. Personally I am done with my formal education but will remain a life long student of subjects that inspire me intellectually and spiritually.
 
I think the bigger problem with people nowadays(perhaps myself included) is not necessarily education but motivation. How many people do we know with a good education but choose to stay stuck in the same position in life year after year? Also, too many people have the idea of the perfect life in their head, and when they do not reach it within a given time tend to give up. But if you truly want a better life nothing is out of reach in this country. If your poor, there is financial aid and government assistance. If school is not for you, there are plenty of jobs that require no college education and still offer benefits and retirement.
 
I think the bigger problem with people nowadays(perhaps myself included) is not necessarily education but motivation. How many people do we know with a good education but choose to stay stuck in the same position in life year after year? Also, too many people have the idea of the perfect life in their head, and when they do not reach it within a given time tend to give up. But if you truly want a better life nothing is out of reach in this country. If your poor, there is financial aid and government assistance. If school is not for you, there are plenty of jobs that require no college education and still offer benefits and retirement. Also, might I add, if bodybuilding consumes you to the point you aren't doing shit in life besides going to the gym, sooner or later it'll be a slap in the face. For many of my friends, that slap in the face was too late and they'll never amount to shit. No wife, no good career, no kids, no health insurance, nothing besides the gym, and then it'll get to the point they wont even have that
 
sorry for the double post, went back and edited it to add that last part and fucking double posted, my mistake
 
the problem is not motivation, its saturation. the market is FULL of 4 year degrees and currently they're about as useful as a high school diploma was 15 years ago. As a result, people entering the job market with their BAs need to differentiate themselves by other means. This equates to internships and externships. The unsettling part bout internships is that typically, with the exception of the finance field, its hard to find a paid internship, and, in many cases, it is difficult to find an internship at all. This means that in order to get an internship and make some money, you need to have connections. The funny thing is that the people with connections are the people that typically could leech off of mumsy and daddikins and take the unpaid internship. This makes it difficult for people who don't have money to acquire an internship that won't leave them completely bereft of cash. What it also means is that if you're trying to hit college late in the game, you're screwed unless you have a pretty decent bank roll to live off of. 2 year degrees are essentially becoming useless as well. So where does this leave you?

Trade school. plumbers and electricians can pull in a better bank roll than a lot of college educated guys. Jobs like this are also very easy to turn into very profitable businesses as well by taking on other employees who are less motivated but are still hard workers. Or you can always opt to start a business. I know of a lot of uneducated guys who have started their own businesses and, again, make more money than people with degrees. Selling pools and spas tends to be very profitable seeing as how i know 3 guys with their own pool businesses that pull in over a half a million a year. If you're starting late, trade school and good old fashioned entrepreneurship are the way to go.

For you guys who are in college, your 4 year degree is not enough. Bust your asses to get internships or you'll be left in the dust. Network, network, and network some more. I've never interviewed for a single internship i've had and my internships were not shabby by any stretch of the imagination. If you are going into finance, get your mba or you'll be lucky to make more than 100k a year. another great way to distinguish yourself in finance is to get your CFAs taken care of. If you can knock out the first year of your CFAs before you graduate, you'll be leaps and bounds above your peers.

I personally was going to go into finance, saw all this crap coming and switched to medicine. So basically, i'll be a student until i'm 35 years old.
 
the problem is not motivation, its saturation. the market is FULL of 4 year degrees and currently they're about as useful as a high school diploma was 15 years ago. As a result, people entering the job market with their BAs need to differentiate themselves by other means. This equates to internships and externships. The unsettling part bout internships is that typically, with the exception of the finance field, its hard to find a paid internship, and, in many cases, it is difficult to find an internship at all. This means that in order to get an internship and make some money, you need to have connections. The funny thing is that the people with connections are the people that typically could leech off of mumsy and daddikins and take the unpaid internship. This makes it difficult for people who don't have money to acquire an internship that won't leave them completely bereft of cash. What it also means is that if you're trying to hit college late in the game, you're screwed unless you have a pretty decent bank roll to live off of. 2 year degrees are essentially becoming useless as well. So where does this leave you?

Trade school. plumbers and electricians can pull in a better bank roll than a lot of college educated guys. Jobs like this are also very easy to turn into very profitable businesses as well by taking on other employees who are less motivated but are still hard workers. Or you can always opt to start a business. I know of a lot of uneducated guys who have started their own businesses and, again, make more money than people with degrees. Selling pools and spas tends to be very profitable seeing as how i know 3 guys with their own pool businesses that pull in over a half a million a year. If you're starting late, trade school and good old fashioned entrepreneurship are the way to go.

For you guys who are in college, your 4 year degree is not enough. Bust your asses to get internships or you'll be left in the dust. Network, network, and network some more. I've never interviewed for a single internship i've had and my internships were not shabby by any stretch of the imagination. If you are going into finance, get your mba or you'll be lucky to make more than 100k a year. another great way to distinguish yourself in finance is to get your CFAs taken care of. If you can knock out the first year of your CFAs before you graduate, you'll be leaps and bounds above your peers.

I personally was going to go into finance, saw all this crap coming and switched to medicine. So basically, i'll be a student until i'm 35 years old.

What about getting a PhD?
 
depending on the field, a PhD can be a terrible deal. Pretty much the only way to make money with a PhD is to make sure you get it in the sciences or math otherwise you're dooming yourself to being a teacher/professor which is fine if you're ok with their pay grade. typically law school, business school, and medical school are the only ways to make a decent buck through continued education. obviously you will make more with a PhD than with a BA or masters but considering the work load is not much different than law school and med school as far as intensity, the pay you receive for the degree is terrible.
 

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