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IGF-1 up to the day of the show??????

TooPowerful4u

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I know that GH has to be stopped 2 weeks out due to water retention. What is the cause of water retention with GH (im not using GH just curious)

I know GH increased IGF-1 levels in the body, but i was wondering if you used IGF-1 LR3 could you use it right up to the day of the show? I understand it has the characteristic of making you super full and vascular, which i believe would help conditioning ALOT, but could it cause water retention?
 
PHIL HERNON said:
but I dont feel like being called a liar.;)

suucchhh a smartass lol. gee thanx phil..how did i see this response coming.
 
Vasopressin

aka ADH - anti diuretic hormone - seems to be what causes GH water retention. The more GH, the more ADH secreted by the pituitary gland, hence less h2o excreted by your kidneys.
The only medication that can act directly to reduce ADH secretion is a new drug called Tolvaptan. But i don't even think you can find it for sale in pharmacies... just has been tested in hospitals on patients with heart failure.

Captopril or even clonidine may help (has been discussed here recently).
 
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PHIL HERNON said:
but I dont feel like being called a liar.;)

Your such a tease! LOL
 
TooPowerful4u said:
I understand it has the characteristic of making you super full and vascular, which i believe would help conditioning ALOT, but could it cause water retention?
Yes. When you hold a lot of water you get vascular and full. What happens when you dehydrate? Veins disappear. It's pretty tricky trying to be really dry and full at the same time. Personally I would see how I reacted to it. If I was really dry 2 weeks out on it maybe there is no need to drop it. If not, drop it.
 

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