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Im putting this myth TO REST

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we all know that tren cough is real and can happen. i always thought it was the actaul trenbolone and nothing else (ba,bb or oil) that is causing the chest pain and what not. well i just did a 1ml injection of boldenone cypionate and got "tren cough" from it. yes i am running tren but today is not my injetion day for tren and no i didnt use the wrong vial. ive had tren cough twice before when using tren so i know the exact feeling. ive heard people coughing from other gear than tren but never have believed it untill just 5 minutes ago. anyone else experiece "tren cough" from something other than tren.
 
tren cough is caused by the BA, this is fact. If you read the insert for pfizer test depot is says that BA has been shown to cause "Gasping Syndrome".
 
Flex4777 said:
Anytime you go through a vein and then shoot. If some of the oil gets into the vein you are gonna cough it out your lungs, whether the oil has any test, tren, eq, deca, or whatever in it or not.
i have had a cypionate cough before.
 
I did a sust equip mix and shot it, aspirated and still got a minor cough, its happening to often now, wheres the science to this?
 
Just about everything gives me that cough...some more then others like tren
 
so why is it that over the years ive never once had the cough with test or eq or anything else even though i know for sure ive gone through some veins with a mess of blood coming out, my first try at tren i got the cough, was it just luck? theres gotta be something in tren that enhances the cough/increaces the chances or else it would be known as "BA cough" and not "tren cough" ya know?
 
I've been at this for 13 years now and have done plenty of homebrew, IP jugs, etc., and have had this only twice. Each time it was with kit tren/finiplex. I always aspirate....
 
NPCS FINEST said:
Just about everything gives me that cough...some more then others like tren

me two. I get a cough from Test Enan whether it is 250 or 400 but especially the 400. My doc says its the BA irritation to the lungs. She gave me Albuterol to take one puff before an injection and it works!

I also always get the alcohol breath and can "taste" it for several minutes from every Test injection...

Mike
 
mikeheavypecs said:
me two. I get a cough from Test Enan whether it is 250 or 400 but especially the 400. My doc says its the BA irritation to the lungs. She gave me Albuterol to take one puff before an injection and it works!

I also always get the alcohol breath and can "taste" it for several minutes from every Test injection...

Mike
So she says it's BA concentration entering the blood stream quickly in some way, or am I off here...Sorry never had "the cough" with anything...*knock on wood*
 
jstforme said:
we all know that tren cough is real and can happen. i always thought it was the actaul trenbolone and nothing else (ba,bb or oil) that is causing the chest pain and what not. well i just did a 1ml injection of boldenone cypionate and got "tren cough" from it. yes i am running tren but today is not my injetion day for tren and no i didnt use the wrong vial. ive had tren cough twice before when using tren so i know the exact feeling. ive heard people coughing from other gear than tren but never have believed it untill just 5 minutes ago. anyone else experiece "tren cough" from something other than tren.


ONLY tren has ever done this too me and I found injecting slowly stopped that.
 
Beleive it or not after carefull analysis i found that Benzyl Benzoate is the culprit to my cough with any compound.
This is a copy and paste which makes sense,-

Tren- Fat burning and "fina cough" both from prostaglandin metabolization Posted on AR & IBB as well-


It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"

The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction(the main form of expulsion)


Refs:
Cackatoo Press
Columbia Encyclopedia 6th Edition
Science Daily Magazine
 
Flex4777 said:
Anytime you go through a vein and then shoot. If some of the oil gets into the vein you are gonna cough it out your lungs, whether the oil has any test, tren, eq, deca, or whatever in it or not.

I read a really good post explaining this theory and how the "acetate ester" is the worst of all easter for the cough. I'll see if i can locate it for you guys.
 

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