I'm stuck and need help! DC, Phil, someone please!!!

A50# · Mar 4, 2008

For the first time in the many years I have been training, I am stuck in a rut and cant make any progress. The scale isnt moving, BF% is staying the same, and the mirror is pissing me off everytime I look at it. I went back and read Dante's old 'Cycle for Pennies' and finally convinced myself that it's diet related. Just today I've doubled all my protein servings, I'm shooting for 400-500g per day. My training has came to a grind a few times. When I trained too heavy, I started getting nagging injuries and recovered poorly, now I'm back up in the 10-12 rep range to try fresh'n things up. Seriously anyone who can lend some plateau breaking advice, please hit me with it.

Big Dave Smith · Mar 4, 2008

A50# said:
For the first time in the many years I have been training, I am stuck in a rut and cant make any progress. The scale isnt moving, BF% is staying the same, and the mirror is pissing me off everytime I look at it. I went back and read Dante's old 'Cycle for Pennies' and finally convinced myself that it's diet related. Just today I've doubled all my protein servings, I'm shooting for 400-500g per day. My training has came to a grind a few times. When I trained too heavy, I started getting nagging injuries and recovered poorly, now I'm back up in the 10-12 rep range to try fresh'n things up. Seriously anyone who can lend some plateau breaking advice, please hit me with it.

Post up what your split is, daily diet, etc. Personally, if my diet is a little off, I make ZERO gains. Doubling your protein was good... but where's it coming from? How many meals? What are your carb/protein sources, etc?

tatteredxangelx · Mar 4, 2008

maybe time to up the dosage a few hundred mg ... how expierenced are you?

Philthy · Mar 4, 2008

tatteredxangelx said:
maybe time to up the dosage a few hundred mg ... how expierenced are you?

Thats retarded advise.

Kaiser · Mar 4, 2008

tatteredxangelx said:
maybe time to up the dosage a few hundred mg ... how expierenced are you?

Dude, he's very experienced, he's a moderator on here bozo

Kaiser · Mar 4, 2008

50, weren't you trying to stay leaner nowadays? Last time I talked to you I thought I remember you talking about that.

PHIL HERNON · Mar 4, 2008

A50

A50# said:
For the first time in the many years I have been training, I am stuck in a rut and cant make any progress. The scale isnt moving, BF% is staying the same, and the mirror is pissing me off everytime I look at it. I went back and read Dante's old 'Cycle for Pennies' and finally convinced myself that it's diet related. Just today I've doubled all my protein servings, I'm shooting for 400-500g per day. My training has came to a grind a few times. When I trained too heavy, I started getting nagging injuries and recovered poorly, now I'm back up in the 10-12 rep range to try fresh'n things up. Seriously anyone who can lend some plateau breaking advice, please hit me with it.

PM ME.......I HAVE A FEW TRICKS UP MY SLEEVE

tatteredxangelx · Mar 4, 2008

lol ... my bad, didnt see he was a mod

are you trying to cut up, or bulk up?

emeric delczeg · Mar 4, 2008

PHIL HERNON said:
PM ME.......I HAVE A FEW TRICKS UP MY SLEEVE

I don`t have sleeves, I can`t help

PHIL HERNON · Mar 4, 2008

yes you do

emeric delczeg said:
I don`t have sleeves, I can`t help

All those OLD SCHOOL tattoos you have........you are all sleeved up.

Steak Helmet · Mar 4, 2008

Phil got me out of my mental and physical plateau.

PHIL HERNON · Mar 4, 2008

?

Steak Helmet said:
Phil got me out of my mental and physical plateau.

You had so much untapped potential it was ridiculous ......I just had you quit listening to grunge music and get a job and start lifting weights and.....viola!

A50# · Mar 5, 2008

tatteredxangelx said:
maybe time to up the dosage a few hundred mg ... how expierenced are you?

Tried that, no change

Just kidding. Yeah, I've been training about 20 yrs now. Someone I was talking with at work suggested the fact my lack of gains could be due to my age

A50# · Mar 5, 2008

Kaiser said:
50, weren't you trying to stay leaner nowadays? Last time I talked to you I thought I remember you talking about that.

Yep Kaiser. You helped me with some good advice to get there. I actually got very lean and my bf% was single digits, but I feel I lost a too much size. I've struggled to get my bodyweight back up 10lbs and doing that my bodyfat percent went up too. I'm smaller and smoother than I care to be right now.

A50# · Mar 5, 2008

PHIL HERNON said:
PM ME.......I HAVE A FEW TRICKS UP MY SLEEVE

Phil, I'm sending you a pm brother.

tatteredxangelx · Mar 5, 2008

A50 ... i'm only 21, but I was stuck @ 235lbs, and my lifts weren't gettin better. Anyways, I ran a T3 cycle for a few months, but didn't diet, ate more than normal and far from clean ... naturally, I didn't lose weight, I gained about a pound or 2 of muscle, but when I came off my body rebounded hard and I went to 257lbs! 85% of my gains were muscle too because I began to eat super clean after I came off ... All I ran during that 20lb gain was 250mg of Test E as well ... my lifts all improved by 30-40lbs too ... Deadlifted 635 for the first time today, and hit a 725 18" rack pull ... prior to my weight gain, I was doing a 565 deadlift, on a good day which wasn't even what I could do 2 years ago ... Now I am @ 245 because I shed most the fat I gained from the T3 rebound ... I hope this helps.

Potimus · Mar 5, 2008

How about some time off ??? How long have you been at it consistently without a break?

3BILLS · Mar 5, 2008

tatteredxangelx said:
A50 ... i'm only 21, but I was stuck @ 235lbs, and my lifts weren't gettin better. Anyways, I ran a T3 cycle for a few months, but didn't diet, ate more than normal and far from clean ... naturally, I didn't lose weight, I gained about a pound or 2 of muscle, but when I came off my body rebounded hard and I went to 257lbs! 85% of my gains were muscle too because I began to eat super clean after I came off ... All I ran during that 20lb gain was 250mg of Test E as well ... my lifts all improved by 30-40lbs too ... Deadlifted 635 for the first time today, and hit a 725 18" rack pull ... prior to my weight gain, I was doing a 565 deadlift, on a good day which wasn't even what I could do 2 years ago ... Now I am @ 245 because I shed most the fat I gained from the T3 rebound ... I hope this helps.

thats all fine and dandy but i wouldnt play around to much with your thyroid dude. your going to end up throughing your sysmtem out of wack

rAJJIN · Mar 5, 2008

A50# My Man!!!
I know what happen, you cut out the twinkies and doughnuts!

goodluck to you Buddy.

td1111 · Mar 5, 2008

Potimus said:
How about some time off ??? How long have you been at it consistently without a break?

Bump this. Take some serious time off from lifting, or just do light maintenance reps for a while. Your body is fully adapted, and needs time off, then heavy shock back on. Also consider high-rep burn sets for a change. Many bros report a new surge of growth doing this.