Nothing in my entire life has hurt more than IP oils. That stuff crippled me for days after a shot & has permenately deformed an inj site due to the high BA killing tissue. His tabs are great, his injectables are brutal. Never again!!!!
I have some of his new amp's. Test e, deca and prop. The T and D are painless but the prop hurts. I went down to 50mg per shot mixed and pain was tolerable.
Yes, results are great, but the pain just cant make up for it enuff! If you're ass, delts or arms are immovable from a sore shot, how can you train properly???
Diluting (a lot) with other stuff does help much, but this shouldnt have to be the case. If you can get human grade like Prima, org deca, org sust, etc, etc, go with those whenever possible.
I've used many IP injectables over the years and the only one that ever caused me pain was te prop/suspension mix. That stuff is pain waiting to be injected. All other injectables were pain free.
Anything with a decent amount of prop in it hurts the SUS A TON 375 is actually 431 overfilled just like the deca 200 is actually 230 every thing seems to be normal with them except things with alot of prop the pain for me after injection will not hurt for about an hour or so then it will start to hurt like hell for a while then go away then slowly start to hurt more and more as the week goes on but i remember the first couple times i shot it, it started to sting while i was injecting which doesnt ever happen to me but its because of the prop if you mix it with the deca and shake it in the pin then let it sit for a while it should be fairly painless but the shit works good alot of people swear by IP
I just finished a cycle with the sus a ton 375 tested at over 400mg's an amp 1-5 ml's & yes sting on injection but I beleive that was from the prop other than a little sore for a day or so nothing major!
This is something I have been wondering too... I have read horror stories about IP's injectables. Most of the claims are saying that the gear isn't sterile and that is why it's so painful. But I've read others saying the amount of benzyl alcohol IP uses to sterilize is what is causing sore reactions.
I've been on IP's Sust a ton for a couple of months now. The shots were
hurting like hell at the beginning the 1st few shots. My ass cheeks were like balloons from the swelling man couldn't even sit down confortablly. I was taking some Alleve for the pain. But for some reason my body has been getting used to the sust shots doesn't hurt nearly as much as before
. I also have been using the 23g needle as opposed to the 22g, which i think has also made a difference. Also the GROWTH HAS BEEN AWESOME from IP's sust.
Like the saying goes "NO PAIN NO GAIN BROTHA"