Is HCG necessary if...

hardkor · Dec 10, 2004

the boys never really shrank? I just came off a 16 week cycle and my testicals didn't shrink much if any. The 10 weeks of the cycle was 750 cypionate and 600 deca per week. The last 6 weeks was 70 Tren and 50 Winstrol everyday.

Do i need to still implement HCG for PCT? I'm still taking my arimidex and threw in some Nolvadex as well. Was planning on running 1000ius of HCG eod but ain't sure if i need to now. Any suggestions?

Big A · Dec 11, 2004

HCG should be used during a cycle, not after it.

hardkor · Dec 11, 2004

Thanks Big A. Didn't seem like anyone was going to respond to this thread. I guess i'll just stick with the nolvas and arimidex for my PCT. I guess if my balls didn't shrink much if any, i'll just save the HCG for next time.

New_Mass · Dec 11, 2004

use

I would still use , it wont hurt to make sure

JAG · Dec 11, 2004

I would still use , it wont hurt to make sure

No, it is actually counter productive and can actually worsen the recovery situation.

A good post on subject

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1190

New_Mass · Dec 11, 2004

JAG said:
No, it is actually counter productive and can actually worsen the recovery situation.

A good post on subject

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1190

yeah bro.. you have to read the bottom of xcels post (hcg dose) Im sure since he has no atrophy or smaller balls then he knows smaller doses is what we are talking about here

xcelbeyond · Dec 11, 2004

New_Mass said:
yeah bro.. you have to read the bottom of xcels post (hcg dose) Im sure since he has no atrophy or smaller balls then he knows smaller doses is what we are talking about here

What Doc Swale said in that post at bottom of that thread is what Big A reiterated. HCG simulates LH, which in turn stimulates testosterone production. In other words, it KEEPS YOUR HPTA SHUT DOWN, where the object with PCT is to get your HPTA back to normal (not exogenous manipulation).

New_Mass · Dec 11, 2004

xcelbeyond said:
What Doc Swale said in that post at bottom of that thread is what Big A reiterated. HCG simulates LH, which in turn stimulates testosterone production. In other words, it KEEPS YOUR HPTA SHUT DOWN, where the object with PCT is to get your HPTA back to normal (not exogenous manipulation).

xcel this is very true, , everything has its purpose, but hardkors' question was about atrophy, or losing size to his testicles and should he use hcg to counter this effect even though he didnt see any shrinkage, and my response was yes to make sure his testes will be back to full blast(nothing wrong with wanting to be sure). now i understand about the HPTA still being suppressed (we all already know this)at that particular point but only one thing can be accomplished at a time. so if he uses hcg(small dose/3 applications) along with his other anti-es then over time everthing should come back to normal. not a big problem