ANY and ALL routines work. they really do. as long as its supplying stimulus to the muscle and as long as you recover and EAT it will work. its not a complicated thing at all. workouts are the easiest part of whole equation. most difficult part is diet. 2nd easiest part is the drugs. its kinda like workout routines they all work if you put in the work:lightbulb:
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I could sit here now and write out 10 workout systems. I could make them really complicated so guys think they are getting their money's worth. Many people would be made up with them but it's all bullshit at the end of the day. As long as someone trains hard it will work. Plus that is coming from someone who loves training and puts a lot of effort into the minor details of it all as well.
All the pro's are jumping on this though and most of them have ebooks. Bulking ebooks, shredding ebooks, lean bulking ebooks etc etc. Half the time many probably get someone to ghost write them and they finish it off. They are making a lot of money. The likes of Jeremy Buendia must be making $100k's every year just on ebooks now. I say good on them and if someone is prepared to pay for it then great. But for the most part guys buy them thinking there is some magic sequence of exercises that will unlock special gains. Kai Greene had loads of ebooks and suddenly one day slashed the price by something crazy like 90% which would be annoying to anyone who had bought them before. His are basic though and not expensive but he has that many fans he must have made a killing. I bet he didn't write his out either. Maybe the training itself but not all the text to go with it.
There are also some really good trainers out there doing them as well. Many apply more science into training but it's still all the same. Again if someone who willing to pay for it then great. If someone has a problem with it I can't understand. It's not like the bodybuilder is forcing someone to buy it. Although lot's of people are getting ripped off in the IG era with training especially with the many insta famous female trainers or that terrible term "influencers".
Obviously training can be hugely important so I am not dismissing learning from experienced guys. If someone is going in the gym and doing far too much volume and not recovering their gains will be effected. Some people also need a helping hand and constant support. Others know what they are doing but don't mind paying out as they want to learn as much as possible. Little changes in training can result in quite big changes.
Regarding Jordan Peters training I think it's extermely effective. But to me it isn't his training it's just training. The same stuff gets done over and over with slight modifications. The reason I like Jordan though is he doesn't pretend it to be any other way. But sure his style of training is very effective. On here though you constantly see x style of training or y's movements and I think to myself really. Plus don't get me started on all the guys who change a movement in a tiny way and suddenly it's named something else. They must sit there trying to think of new movements they can name after themselves. But if you have the followers it sticks. Regan Grimes seems to do this a lot for example.
Low volume, high frequency and progressive overload is a winning combination for many. People try it and say it didn't work but did they really try it. The same for other training methods as well. Basically the point of my post is any training method can be effective if you put 100% into it.
Everyone is different and their lifestyles may be suited to a certain type of training. An example a lot of these pro's you see going crazy in the gym 6 days per week and training each bodypart 2-3 times don't actually have a proper job. They are pro's so a lot of their work may be sat on a laptop at home with food by his side. Now someone working in a busy factory which is non stop for 10 hours per day with limited breaks may struggle to keep up with such a system. So sure don't train like your favourite pro's if it doesn't suit you. Other people can make it happen no matter what though but very few are that driven.
Regarding Jordan's latest post about what beginners should do I agree it would be very effective. How can concentrating on the basics not be the best advice. Guys just need to ensure they are doing the basics correctly in regards to execution. If a beginner learns to do all the main compound movements with excellent form and don't ego lift they are on the right track.
Now for JP's supplements they use patented ingredients so they are going to cost more. Guys should want fellow bodybuilders to make money. As long as they aren't ripping anyone off as in scamming then I support all bodybuilders. JP's new line looks good. Obviously he is going to promote it in his posts on his forum as well. What's the point in going through all that hard work to set up the line if you don't actually try and sell the products. They are made for his athletes and if anyone else wants to buy them then great. I am actually planning to order the preworkout myself for my preworkout thread.
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