Justin Compton reacts to 14g cycle

[traininsane11]

Justin Compton and the host of the show going over the somewhat infamous 14g and 56iu gh cycle of Heiko Kallbach and discussing the current theory of top pro cycles being 5g+

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[luki7788]

I like Justin, but this talk about him using the most 1g test + 600mg of anabolics and a little d-bol is getting boring

 

[traininsane11]

I like Justin, but this talk about him using the most 1g test + 600mg of anabolics and a little d-bol is getting boring

Does seem interesting when these higher level guys talk about gear usage. They seem to either play the totally clueless card, lower dosages or go back
On what they said.

Apparently in an interview recently fouad abiad said he used 3-4g but I’m sure up until then he claimed much lower

 

[luki7788]

Actually, I don't care what I say - I'm involved in coaching both amateur and professional so I know exactly what guys use because they write it to me themselves

 

[bbxtreme]

Justin Compton and the host of the show going over the somewhat infamous 14g and 56iu gh cycle of Heiko Kallbach and discussing the current theory of top pro cycles being 5g+

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“Theory” is exactly what it is. We know what top guys are using… there are no theories. lol

I wish these guys would just say- we aren’t disclosing our cycles instead of throwing out arbitrary numbers.

We all know guys use gear. We all know the higher the level the more gear they use. Who cares what amount they take. It only makes you look worse when you lie or lowball your cycle. Doesn’t make it any less illegal, still against YouTube policies and is not going to keep any young kid watching from hurting themselves IMO.

It’s a lose lose situation to put real dosages out in the public. Just don’t go there IMO. But it gets clicks every time from everyone chasing the “secret”. Lol

A good principle that I and all should live by IMO- always tell the truth, or at least don’t lie.

 

[Siggy]

14G? That would be like one vial PER DAY....

And then the guy on the left goes on to say he has a friend who is on 20G all the time ( I am assuming he meant 20G per week)

I dont know if Im buying any of this. I thought Chase Irons was already out of his mind for blasting 5 Grams of test per week.

 

[luki7788]

14G? That would be like one vial PER DAY....

And then the guy on the left goes on to say he has a friend who is on 20G all the time ( I am assuming he meant 20G per week)

I dont know if Im buying any of this. I thought Chase Irons was already out of his mind for blasting 5 Grams of test per week.

Heiko doesn't lie because there's no point - such doses were the norm among Germans in those years

 

[M@NU]

maybe as an addition to the video:
Heiko didnt use those dosages all the time of course.
The 14g gear and 56iu hgh blast was like 8-10 weeks if i remember correctly what he said and then he tapered down because he did not get as many benefits as he hoped for.

 

[Siggy]

maybe as an addition to the video:
Heiko didnt use those dosages all the time of course.
The 14g gear and 56iu hgh blast was like 8-10 weeks if i remember correctly what he said and then he tapered down because he did not get as many benefits as he hoped for.

Well that sounds a lot more reasonable. Still, one vial per day is nuts. Even if we say 1400MG of those 14 grams were orals, thats still like 6 vials per week.

 

[Golden]

maybe as an addition to the video:
Heiko didnt use those dosages all the time of course.
The 14g gear and 56iu hgh blast was like 8-10 weeks if i remember correctly what he said and then he tapered down because he did not get as many benefits as he hoped for.

Yep and I think @ChaseIrons said similar about his top dosages. People assume they mean running those dosages constantly

 

[Siggy]

Yep and I think @ChaseIrons said similar about his top dosages. People assume they mean running those dosages constantly

I think Chase was on 3.5G Test/1.5G Mast for like 8 months then went to 5G Test for 4 months so yea it is a long term thing.

 

[Yousef12O2]

The crazy thing is Heiko is still in great shape and good health at almost 60 years old. That shows you how important genetics are.

 

[Siggy]

I think Chase was on 3.5G Test/1.5G Mast for like 8 months then went to 5G Test for 4 months so yea it is a long term thing.

EDIT: I think it was actually 3.5Test /1.5Mast for like a year and hes going to start a long term 5G Test cycle soon.

 

[bbxtreme]

14G? That would be like one vial PER DAY....

And then the guy on the left goes on to say he has a friend who is on 20G all the time ( I am assuming he meant 20G per week)

I dont know if Im buying any of this. I thought Chase Irons was already out of his mind for blasting 5 Grams of test per week.

5 grams is light for most of these bigger guys these days. @ChaseIrons can chime in, but he was doing a lot of Mast in that. Stacking compounds after you max out test tolerance is very common and effective as it allows you to mitigate sides while increasing the anabolic total mg load.

 

[A50#]

I can't believe the volume of injections that it would take for a 14 gram cycle

 

[Shelby]

I coached Justin for his first enhanced show, back in 2010. I don't remember the particulars, but it wasn't any crazy cycle, and his response was pretty jaw-dropping. Literally everything worked (diet, cardio, training, supps, he responded to every change beautifully), and he just replaced fat with muscle like the genetic freak that he is. He worked with other coaches after that, and grew a lot more. I don't know what he did to achieve that, but his response is definitely not the norm. He could definitely get away with a lot less than most would think.

 

[bbxtreme]

I coached Justin for his first enhanced show, back in 2010. I don't remember the particulars, but it wasn't any crazy cycle, and his response was pretty jaw-dropping. Literally everything worked (diet, cardio, training, supps, he responded to every change beautifully), and he just replaced fat with muscle like the genetic freak that he is. He worked with other coaches after that, and grew a lot more. I don't know what he did to achieve that, but his response is definitely not the norm. He could definitely get away with a lot less than most would think.

If I remember correctly you didn’t have to use crazy dosages either when you got your pro card?

Question- did you use more in your earlier years and less as your tissue maturity accumulated over time with age or did your dosage progressively increase as you pushed up in size?

 

[Drax]

I coached Justin for his first enhanced show, back in 2010. I don't remember the particulars, but it wasn't any crazy cycle, and his response was pretty jaw-dropping. Literally everything worked (diet, cardio, training, supps, he responded to every change beautifully), and he just replaced fat with muscle like the genetic freak that he is. He worked with other coaches after that, and grew a lot more. I don't know what he did to achieve that, but his response is definitely not the norm. He could definitely get away with a lot less than most would think.

I remember this There are super-responders in this game, and then there’s everybody else…

 

[Shelby]

If I remember correctly you didn’t have to use crazy dosages either when you got your pro card?

Question- did you use more in your earlier years and less as your tissue maturity accumulated over time with age or did your dosage progressively increase as you pushed up in size?

I usually ran about 1.2g test per week and 600-700mg anabolic
I tried more (2g test), for a short period, but noticed no changes, and didn't feel comfortable with it, so backed down.
There were a couple times later in my career where I ran less (something like 750mg test, 4-500mg anabolic) and that was actually the only time I got into the 1st callout at a pro show
Then I tried reducing it even lower the following year, and back to last callout I went... lol.
It's hard to discern what is due to doses and what is due to other factors like getting older, not having stellar genetics to begin with, etc.

 

[bbxtreme]

I usually ran about 1.2g test per week and 600-700mg anabolic
I tried more (2g test), for a short period, but noticed no changes, and didn't feel comfortable with it, so backed down.
There were a couple times later in my career where I ran less (something like 750mg test, 4-500mg anabolic) and that was actually the only time I got into the 1st callout at a pro show
Then I tried reducing it even lower the following year, and back to last callout I went... lol.
It's hard to discern what is due to doses and what is due to other factors like getting older, not having stellar genetics to begin with, etc.

Thanks for taking the time to answer. Thats about what I remembered. I asked because of the recent study I posted on here about steroid users retaining more muscle cells as they age over time.

I’ve noticed with many seasoned guys the older they get or the longer they have been at this that they’re able to use lower anabolic mg amounts to achieve the same size/look as they did in the past with more.

I know for me we’ve found my sweet spot is 1250mg. I’ve pushed 1500mg and felt miserable and get sides. I know what this translates to on blood levels too which I believe is very helpful in determining someone’s dosage needs as everyone responds differently.

For this prep we dropped test to 600mg for the final 6 weeks and it was my best look yet, but we did offset with other compounds.