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kratom and phenibut

xman280

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has anybody noticed any water changes in your body from nay of those two - either bloating or water loss? I ve had seem to lose a lot of water or glycogen from phenibut and retain subq. the Kratom - kinda both ona different day and got tested a night after 5 g of kratom and my Potassium serum was pretty high. cant confirm that s the reason, but I ve seen immediate changes with both things either water loss or bloating...
 

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no but on kratom i have been less sick. i dont really remember the last time I got sick. I love this shit to relax. My try some CBD oil after reading the last post.
 

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Kratom has diuretic properties in some of the alkyloids.

I felt that , and eventually the i release water and Kratom suppresses my petite and all, don drink enough get dehydrated and all but still cant explain the hyperkaliemia ..maybe complained with ACE inhibitors (which can cause high potassium), and also read Viagra can cause hyperkalimia. Aperson never know whats going on in the body. It could be an acute but very dangerous side effect from one of those non FDA researched herbs. Plus on line u can get much stronger strains of Kratom than in the shop.....this last one - Sumatra Red was extremely strong relaxant
 

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Kratom is the ultimate appetite suppressant for me. Nothing works as well.
I also do notice a slight dehydrated look. I get that sucked in water loss look from marijuana too which is weird.
 

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I felt that , and eventually the i release water and Kratom suppresses my petite and all, don drink enough get dehydrated and all but still cant explain the hyperkaliemia ..maybe complained with ACE inhibitors (which can cause high potassium), and also read Viagra can cause hyperkalimia. Aperson never know whats going on in the body. It could be an acute but very dangerous side effect from one of those non FDA researched herbs. Plus on line u can get much stronger strains of Kratom than in the shop.....this last one - Sumatra Red was extremely strong relaxant

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Tonight I tried Earth Kratoms "train wreck" A blend of 11 strains lol takes longer to hit but when it does it is literally a train wreck. Head shop though so expensive. 50 bucks for 60 grams!
 

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I wish I could enjoy these occasionally like I used to. I've been through opioid and GABA agonist withdrawal so many times, I feel like shit for a few days after a single dose of either. It might take years, but it catches up to you after a while.
 

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I wish I could enjoy these occasionally like I used to. I've been through opioid and GABA agonist withdrawal so many times, I feel like shit for a few days after a single dose of either. It might take years, but it catches up to you after a while.

Yeah man your right about that! The struggle is real for guys like us! Gives me terrible RLS and can't sleep at night
 

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Tonight I tried Earth Kratoms "train wreck" A blend of 11 strains lol takes longer to hit but when it does it is literally a train wreck. Head shop though so expensive. 50 bucks for 60 grams!

happyhippo sumatra red..supposedly the strongest version of mali...it wasnt a train wreck..th enight befor u sused some free sample they gave me which make u hipped relaxed, but that sumatra red, i took ( i also had 7m mg of ephedrine in ECA b4 that) layed on couch to shut eyes for a cpl of minutes b4 gym and woke up hrs later....still went to gym at midnight but and was feeling relaxed trained heavy but felt no pumps...and I thought 5 g is a high dose, MOFOs online post experience with 15 g at a time.....
 
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If you take either of these regularly you'll suffer the same withdrawal effects as any other opioid or benzodiazepine, albeit on a smaller scale.
 

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I wish I could enjoy these occasionally like I used to. I've been through opioid and GABA agonist withdrawal so many times, I feel like shit for a few days after a single dose of either. It might take years, but it catches up to you after a while.


Try agmatine
 

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Tonight I tried Earth Kratoms "train wreck" A blend of 11 strains lol takes longer to hit but when it does it is literally a train wreck. Head shop though so expensive. 50 bucks for 60 grams!

$60 for roughly 2oz is insanity!
 

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If you take either of these regularly you'll suffer the same withdrawal effects as any other opioid or benzodiazepine, albeit on a smaller scale.

I got bezos Rx for sleep and i know the nasty withdrawal but decide to try phenibut as a substitute and krayom out of curiosity..dont think i ll be using kartom again till i figure what on combo with what cause dangerously high potassium levels...
Many years ago I had very strange weird heart arrhythmia after a dose of cialis....turned out it cause that by several various mechanisms, one of which could be hyerkaliemia just like viagra.....not everybody gets it but some ppl do, I was always curious why a single dose of cialis make me feel like shit for at least 12 hrs...still dont know the true reason...
 

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Yeah I'm not proud of it but today for example I took 30 at lunch then another 30 at dinner 7 hours later.
 

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