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Lets talk high ck/cpk levels

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Hey guys,

I am getting routine bloodwork done every 4-8 weeks since i had my rhabdo. (rhabdo was not training induced!)
one thing that is always out of range is the ck value. Everything else is always in range (creatinine between 0,98 and 1,16 every time for example, electrolytes fine, chol ok (good one a bit low but total is below 100, triglycerides very good,...).
However, my ck is always elevated quite a lot.
It has its peak on monday after 3 training days in a row.
This value is typically around 4000. (4 thousand)
on a friday morning, it is at its lowest around 1000-1200 after tue/wed training and thursday off. One time i took 4 days off before the test and it was in range.
Right now i am training 5 days and on the 2 off days i do optional cardio (LISS). additionally, 2-3 days HIIT.
I am currently cutting and my carb intake is quite low on 6 days of the week (below 100).
now my question:
according to docs, its normal that ck is elevated after training sessions. I also know that.
But is there any long time risk of damage to anything if it is elevated?
will it cause scaring of any organ?
is this a sign of overtraining? Sign to deload/reduce training days?
thanks for your opinion guys!
 

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In for some educated comments on this. Recently had bloods done and mine was 5k. Dr. asked if i was in a car accident. I trained legs the day prior. I wasnt aware/haven't heard of any repercussions from a constant elevated cpk, but im going to assume it cant be healthy.

I know Jordan Peters recently talked about this and his was crazy high after leg day.
 

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Hey guys,

I am getting routine bloodwork done every 4-8 weeks since i had my rhabdo. (rhabdo was not training induced!)
one thing that is always out of range is the ck value. Everything else is always in range (creatinine between 0,98 and 1,16 every time for example, electrolytes fine, chol ok (good one a bit low but total is below 100, triglycerides very good,...).
However, my ck is always elevated quite a lot.
It has its peak on monday after 3 training days in a row.
This value is typically around 4000. (4 thousand)
on a friday morning, it is at its lowest around 1000-1200 after tue/wed training and thursday off. One time i took 4 days off before the test and it was in range.
Right now i am training 5 days and on the 2 off days i do optional cardio (LISS). additionally, 2-3 days HIIT.
I am currently cutting and my carb intake is quite low on 6 days of the week (below 100).
now my question:
according to docs, its normal that ck is elevated after training sessions. I also know that.
But is there any long time risk of damage to anything if it is elevated?
will it cause scaring of any organ?
is this a sign of overtraining? Sign to deload/reduce training days?
thanks for your opinion guys!
I've got the same issue. Always between 600 and 1000. This is considered slightly elevated. Once it reaches 3000+ then it is a problem. I found by drinking more water and not training for 7 days prior to the test all is fine. Do you take a diuretic? I think that's what was causing mine to stay elevated. I also use sodium bicarbonate at night before bed. Helps clear the kidneys.

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Doctors are crazy. I had one of my Kidney specialist call me at work and almost sent me to the hospital because my CPK was 5200, asked if I had a heart attack, sent me for more blood work. When I called him back after researching this, told him about my workouts, he seemed to be ok with it all and did not seem concerned at all.
 

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Doctors are crazy. I had one of my Kidney specialist call me at work and almost sent me to the hospital because my CPK was 5200, asked if I had a heart attack, sent me for more blood work. When I called him back after researching this, told him about my workouts, he seemed to be ok with it all and did not seem concerned at all.

lol at doctors treating people who lift weights
 

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I've got the same issue. Always between 600 and 1000. This is considered slightly elevated. Once it reaches 3000+ then it is a problem. I found by drinking more water and not training for 7 days prior to the test all is fine. Do you take a diuretic? I think that's what was causing mine to stay elevated. I also use sodium bicarbonate at night before bed. Helps clear the kidneys.

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Hey robert,

i do take 6,25mg hctz daily. Could this really be the issue?
@nothuman:
well, even athletes need a doc sometimes, even if we know at least as much as they do most of the time :p (at least as those "family docs" as they are called in germany)
so how to go on with the situation?
Apart from the value i feel fine. No fatigue or something like that.
 

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my university had such a dope doctor



my liver values would be elevated, and he'd tell me to 'lay off the orals for a little while' :eek:
 

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Hey robert,

i do take 6,25mg hctz daily. Could this really be the issue?
@nothuman:
well, even athletes need a doc sometimes, even if we know at least as much as they do most of the time [emoji14] (at least as those "family docs" as they are called in germany)
so how to go on with the situation?
Apart from the value i feel fine. No fatigue or something like that.
That's a small dose. I doubt it. I was taking 25mg a day and wasn't drinking enough water. I did some research on clearance from the kidneys and found out about sodium bicarbonate(baking soda) Can't hurt to give it a try. But I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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lol at doctors treating people who lift weights

little slice said:
my university had such a dope doctor



my liver values would be elevated, and he'd tell me to 'lay off the orals for a little while'

It's so hard to find a good one....that's why I love mine. Whenever I would have any alarms in the past about certain things.....he would say let's stop the training for a few days and retest if you are really worried....but stuff like this is normal on athletes.

Plus I would tell him anything I was taking or thinking about taking and he would list the "Pro's and Con's" from what he knew...and then say if you are going to do it let's monitor "so and so".

Very cool guy.
 

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yeah, he asked me to remeasure in feb and take 3 days off before the test.
the thing is:
of course i know it will be in range/close to range then.
but my question is if the body has any problems with constantly high ck values? Any damage long term?
Because if i would want the ck value to be in range all the time i could only train 2 times a week :p
 

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