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Libido all but dead - age? gear? life?

taz

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Wondering if you guys experience this type of shit or if its just me. My libido has been very low for the past few years. As in, we might have sex maybe twice a month on a GOOD month. Generally its once a month. Been running 250 cyp weekly for couple of years as maintenance. Was taking that much (or slightly more) when we got pregnant with our other children.

We have 3 children. 16,13 and 4. I have been hoping for ONE MORE but figure im probably firing blanks. That being said, while we havent had much sex it has always been right around that fertile time since she seems more in the mood then too. But even then it takes me a couple of days before I can even think about doing it again let alone my body responding positively to it.

I recently increased everything to 500mgs test cyp and 50mg A-50eod. I was hoping the extra test and a-50 would have me walking around ready to go all day! Didnt happen.
Planning to add 500/w masteron in january to help me as I cut down so I dont lose too much muscle.

Just wondering, have you/do you experience this same sort of thing? Even now on the higher dosage, which I know isnt HIGH by most people's standards but for me this is alot of gear. Even now I still have basically zero sex drive most of the time. So it looks doubtful that we will ever get pregnant again.

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46yrs old (wife is turning 44 btw)
262lbs (usually walk around 240 but figured I would shoot for 265 this winter for the hell of it)
15-18%BF
low stress job, i make my own hours and love every second of what I do for a living
 

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I feel your pain since I have the same problem and like I said in another similar thread from a while ago: this does seem to be a common occurrence among regular long term juicers. I have no idea whatsoever what one can do about it or I would have fixed it for myself a long time ago. Of course I would always do a full blood panel to check if everything is OK there but I suspect it will be in your case.

Well I do have one idea: come off all gear and hope you fully recover your natural levels. I think this would be your best bet to recover sexually.

But of course that comes with losing size etc... which we don't want so for me it's not an option. I try to manage it to the best of my ability with erections pills, Proviron, Masteron, ... and those things do help but sex isn't the same as before I used gear that's for sure.

I know I'm not giving you much hope but I can't sugarcoat it either and trust me, you're far from the only juicer suffering from this.
 

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Bloodwork is the most reliable way to diagnose this.

Given your body fat and no mention of AI use, it's probably related to your estrogen levels. Too high or too low and it'll hurt your libido.
 

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Bloodwork is the most reliable way to diagnose this.

Given your body fat and no mention of AI use, it's probably related to your estrogen levels. Too high or too low and it'll hurt your libido.

^^^this ..get bloodwork


the other thing i'll say is ..you should be able to have a raging libido with just TEST
..sure you may have to add or delete an AI ..may need an anti-prolactin
^^^but you should be able to do it

..to add DROL & MAST ..IMO you'r just making a mess & you never get to the root cause of the libido issue
^^^which always seems to be the advice you get on these forums

i mean i get stupid horny on TREN or HALO ..prob not so smart to be on it all the time, right?
..and then what if "they" should fail?

IMHO ..stop taking all the added BS & get bloodwork ..then make your adjustments


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Do you two talk about sex, desires, have good lead ups? If you dont keep thing fresh always they go bad. Like leaving milk out in the sun.
 

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IME it's just part of natural aging. I'm 51, and may or may not be younger than my wife :p

I know we all engage in self-medicated hormonal therapy thinking we can hold back time - and in some ways we can - but the human body is a complex mechanism.
Blood work will only tell you part of the story. You will find stories of people with hormones all over the place, with a mixture of results supporting and negating all kinds of theories.

I wish you luck, but I would say that stressing about it might lead to further difficulties, as I find the more I think about it, the more problems I have with it.
 

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Have you ever done PCT? What about bloodwork? Like daniel and Sour said, you need to know where estrogen and prolactin are. Just adding more could make your situation worse.
 

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As others have stated, get some bloods.
May sound silly but do you have morning wood or sporadic erections?
Do you watch porn?

What I'm getting at is if the problem is psychological, hormonal, or physical.
 

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It's your whacked hormones, you need to dial in and find a good TRT protocol not just 250mg for shits and giggles
 

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Do you take (or have you taken) any other drug? Antidepressant? 5-AR inhibitors?

Estrogens, prolactin, free test, dht are the major players when it comes to libido. Check these out with blood works before you add anything into the mix.
Sometimes running AAS for too long can desensitize the dopamine reward system, which plays a big role in sexual arousal.
Cabergoline or pramipexole may help you in that reguard.
Also, avoid to watch porn because it can "desensitize" you to real sex.
Do you run hcg?
Sometimes hcg can be helpful to restore sex drive, because if you have LH suppressed by AAS for too long, you may lack some neurosteroids produced by the testis.
Some folks have found DHEA and/or pregnenolone helpful too.
 

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Don’t watch porn or masturbate, smoke or be overweight. And talk with your wife about this if you haven’t (and a urologist). Also while you are still a youngster, being married for a while, as much as you love your wife, time does play a factor and is normal. Sex drive is a fickle thing for many people, it comes and goes for no apparent reason.

Also, get your blood tested. Hormones are a factor but not as much you may have been made to believe. And it is not uncommon for men to lie (a lot) about how much sex they get so factor that in too.

And don’t get caught up in all the ‘drugs’ that are being talked about. I will leave it at that.

And I appreciate your honesty and hope you find the happiness you deserve.
 

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Drop the test to 80mg or 100mg a week

and see

Thats what i did.

im with others estrogen
 
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I don't think its estrogen, you will still "Desire" given a wide range.
IMO its your DOPAMINE level given the exposure to long term Androgen/Estro exposure.
Your body is burn out and depleted... The higher the exposure, the more resistant you will be.
Lower you dosage to something manageable and nurture your Dopamine levels naturally or synthetically. Either way takes time but you will
cultivate it back.
neurotransmitter depletion is real like adrenal depletion is especially after a long time.
Remember, it takes very little T to get and erection.Now, libido is a different topic.

This is IMO
 

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Just get bloodwork done. No one can give you any better advice then that.

im 35 and slammed testosterone all through my 20’s. I currently just take 250mg of test now. And I’m in the same boat as you. I really don’t have a sex drive. Plus I take 25mg of Zoloft a day so that is a killer as well. I just take trimix now here and there mostly to keep up with the wife.
 

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I'm also 46yrs old and have some of the same issues. I guess I'm kind of lucky that I dont have a high drive because my wife has very little. I try to look at the bright side I guess.
 

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I personally notice almost zero reduction in sex drive on the 10mg/day protocol, or before when I did 120-140mg/week, however I did need a small amount of AI before I switched to daily dosing. With something like 250mg/week or especially 500mg/week, you are going to need something to keep E2 in check and as others have stated you would definitely need consistent bloodwork.

When I increase my test from TRT, sex drive goes through the roof, but E2 is controlled.
 

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My wife and I are in our 40s but she likes it when I take Tribestan, Masteron, or Proviron with my TRT. She always has my eye but these make me very sexually aggressive towards her. We broke our bed last time.
 

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I don't think its estrogen, you will still "Desire" given a wide range.
IMO its your DOPAMINE level given the exposure to long term Androgen/Estro exposure.
Your body is burn out and depleted... The higher the exposure, the more resistant you will be.
Lower you dosage to something manageable and nurture your Dopamine levels naturally or synthetically. Either way takes time but you will
cultivate it back.
neurotransmitter depletion is real like adrenal depletion is especially after a long time.
Remember, it takes very little T to get and erection.Now, libido is a different topic.

This is IMO
I think you have it right. I can add that I (who has the same problem as the OP) have also been on ADHD-stimulants for years along with my AAS which has probably made the Dopamine-issue even worse.
 

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