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My Dr Phil thread......lol

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My pal old fella made me think in something he said in another thread......maybe there 's guys here that have questions that they could use help from an old "been around the block guy like myself " .[I am sure other vets will help with answers along the way as well] So if any one has questions on woman, sex , drugs , life ,diet , supps , training , or anything else important to them that they could use some help or support with please let it rip...........if the thread takes off I am sure it could be a good thing......if it doesn't thats fine too.......I just thought maybe some of the guys here might like the help.........I guess we will see......ha ha ......Happy New Yr fellas.......Like the Beatles said," Love is all you need ! ".....lol....only trying to help the youngsters out here that may not post much or support my friends here. [not looking to come off like I am cool or a guru or anything ......just been around I guess .....thought a few could benifit ]
 
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My pal old fella made me think in something he said in another thread......maybe there 's guys here that have questions that they could use help from an old "been around the block guy like myself " .[I am sure other vets will help with answers along the way as well] So if any one has questions on woman, sex , drugs , life ,diet , supps , training , or anything else important to them that they could use some help or support with please let it rip...........if the thread takes off I am sure it could be a good thing......if it doesn't thats fine too.......I just thought maybe some of the guys here might like the help.........I guess we will see......ha ha ......Happy New Yr fellas.......Like the Beatles said," Love is all you need ! ".....lol....only trying to help the youngsters out here that may not post much or support my friends here. [not looking to come off like I am cool or a guru or anything ......just been around I guess .....thought a few could benifit ]
OH BOY!!! What have I done??? LMAO:D

Actually not a bad idea. Hopefully we can all keep this thread sane. I am more than willing to answer what I can for what it is worth. I too have been around that very same block too many times.......only cause I'm older and been at it longer HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
just want to say thats a great idea fellas, 2 members here who ONLY ever post stuff worth reading :)
 
So if any one has questions on woman, sex , drugs , life

Will I find LOVE in 2010? Or as I'd say in this beautiful language :p you asked me to teach you: "Vais-je enfin trouver l'AMOUR?"

;) :D ;)


You and I "met" on a BB forum, yet the only thing we almost never discussed is... bodybuilding. Funny, no? :)
 
only cause I'm older and been at it longer HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

OH AND BTW... congrats on ur return to competition, oldbuddy!! :D

In case you guys didn't know, Dale will step on stage again in 2010... THE COME BACK!!! After what... 40 years? 50? Lol!! :p

PM members, be prepared to be overflown by Oldfella's contest prep pics in the upcoming months... ;) :D ;)
 
JC........yes , you will find the love you crave oh so bad ......first ,with your amazing self and then in a beautiful loving woman.......How do I know this after all you have endured ?.......because I have gotten to know the kind ,wonderful ,sensitive ,giving ,intelligent , loving human being that you are . And as fucked up as this harsh world is and as jaded ,selfish , and matialistic as most people are . I guarantee that there is a beautiful woman out there just waiting for you to be able to find her and love her forever........ask Dale if I am wrong ?[it does happen .....ask him? ........and it will happen for you once you are ready] I promise you that mon ami ......if you learn to be just you and stop playing the role........it will all be good for you !!!
 
Ok i actually have a question about soy milk It looks awesome on paper got the good fats, carbs and a good amount of protein and is a good base for a shake IMO, I drink almost a half gallon daily, but theres lots of talk about estrogen with soy which I dont really buy into..... wanna help me bury the hatchet on this one for me? oh and btw i refering to the plain flavor I dont buy choc or vanilla just organic plain because i dont want any added sugar etc. it goes great with some cinnomin raison ezekiel and eggs in the morning!
 
I think it sounds like you have a healthy meal plan going , but I would not drink a half gallon of soy a day ......it is not a complete protein and you would be better off using some of those kals from a more complete protein source ......... 8-12 oz in the morning with the meal you described would be great .......but I wouldn't go any more than that ........But I like that you are basing your diet with natural healthy foods that you enjoy........thats a good way to ensure that you find a meal plan that you can live with for a lifetime which is very important imo.........so good instincts ,but put some of those kals into other foods ........hope that helps.......any subject ....I am all ears fellas
 
I think it sounds like you have a healthy meal plan going , but I would not drink a half gallon of soy a day ......it is not a complete protein and you would be better off using some of those kals from a more complete protein source ......... 8-12 oz in the morning with the meal you described would be great .......but I wouldn't go any more than that ........But I like that you are basing your diet with natural healthy foods that you enjoy........thats a good way to ensure that you find a meal plan that you can live with for a lifetime which is very important imo.........so good instincts ,but put some of those kals into other foods ........hope that helps.......any subject ....I am all ears fellas
I have to echo what has been said. I myself have not really had much soy in my diet. I do not think that drinking that much soy is any better than drinking real milk. Maybe cut back a bit unless you are lactose intolerant. There is more evidence coming out about some not so good benefits of soy in the diet. The asians do not eat as much soy as was first told. It does not comprise of even 1/3 of their daily diets.
 
OH AND BTW... congrats on ur return to competition, oldbuddy!! :D

In case you guys didn't know, Dale will step on stage again in 2010... THE COME BACK!!! After what... 40 years? 50? Lol!! :p

PM members, be prepared to be overflown by Oldfella's contest prep pics in the upcoming months... ;) :D ;)
More like 100 years......or so it feels like!! We shall see. I still have plenty of nagging injuries that I have accumulated over my time...........but we will see!!

AS for Love and you my friend...........well.............what he said!!!!:p;):D
 
JC........yes , you will find the love you crave oh so bad ......first ,with your amazing self and then in a beautiful loving woman.......How do I know this after all you have endured ?.......because I have gotten to know the kind ,wonderful ,sensitive ,giving ,intelligent , loving human being that you are . And as fucked up as this harsh world is and as jaded ,selfish , and matialistic as most people are . I guarantee that there is a beautiful woman out there just waiting for you to be able to find her and love her forever........ask Dale if I am wrong ?[it does happen .....ask him? ........and it will happen for you once you are ready] I promise you that mon ami ......if you learn to be just you and stop playing the role........it will all be good for you !!!

Had you been a girl, Jason, I think I'd already have given a call to your dad and ask for his daughter's hand... :D ;) :D

By any chance... you don't have a sister? Ain't I everything a bro could wish for his little sista?!?! :D :p :D


When you get time, hit me up in pm to tell me how things are. :)
 
Ok i actually have a question about soy milk It looks awesome on paper got the good fats, carbs and a good amount of protein and is a good base for a shake IMO

Way too many omega 6's in soy... if you don't balance your diet with om-3's, drinking too much of it is not that healthy IMO.
 
My pal old fella made me think in something he said in another thread......maybe there 's guys here that have questions that they could use help from an old "been around the block guy like myself " .[I am sure other vets will help with answers along the way as well] So if any one has questions on woman, sex , drugs , life ,diet , supps , training , or anything else important to them that they could use some help or support with please let it rip...........if the thread takes off I am sure it could be a good thing......if it doesn't thats fine too.......I just thought maybe some of the guys here might like the help.........I guess we will see......ha ha ......Happy New Yr fellas.......Like the Beatles said," Love is all you need ! ".....lol....only trying to help the youngsters out here that may not post much or support my friends here. [not looking to come off like I am cool or a guru or anything ......just been around I guess .....thought a few could benifit ]

J, this is really cool of you. It's awesome to see you back and taking more of an active role.

I'm not even sure if you remember me at this point, but I just wanted to say thank you. You were one of my original mentors and inspirations, and you helped me through some really dark times. Thanks again brother.
 
Iabadman, Bro I know there is some on this board that are stubburn and don't want to learn, but to the ones that do, you keep doing what you are doing.

I get confused, will Dale be competing in the 50 or 60 class?:D
 
oldfella,
Right on! Let's see the progress.. Also will be interesting to see how this thread turns out as well.
 
Ia-I am going to take you up on this but i want to pm you. Pm on the way.
 
I know it's likely an individual deal, but what's worked best for you in terms of gaining mass, without gaining fat?
 
Diezel 666 of course I remember you well ..........always enjoyed communicating with you in the past .......how are you and the family ?

deizel city.......


Most guys should do it this way ........and this kinda of the way I did it


Diet .......No 1 thing to get down if you are serious about gaining size ......But unlike a lot of guys .......just like you need to progress and push your wts up in the gym .You need to do the same with your food intake when in your growing yrs.........If you are new to the game ......meaning haven't been really truely consistant with your eatting ,then I would make an effort to make that your number one focus. Start with 4 meals a day [6-7 is too much for most to deal with right away with any consistancy, and most people eat too much anyway] ,try for a gram of protien per lb of bdy wt and .5 to 2 grams of carbs depending on bdy fat , and then add in some good healthy fats . [ try to eat healthy raw or organic foods] In time as you add mass ,you slowly bump up the food , each yr or every few months . [An example would be yr 1 would be the marcos above ,then say by yr 3 you are at say 7 meals a day and a 1.5 grams of protien per lb ,fats have increased , and carbs go up according to wt and time of the yr] You have to build a diet that is progressive when trying to gain mass , with foods that you like , and a schedule that fits your lifestyle . If you don't ,you will fail ,and not stick to it for the long run , and that is where most will fail early on .
I also think one should diet 3 months of each yr , even if new to the game. This is good for the metabolism , and will keep you from getting too fat .[this is even for guys that don't wish to compete] You should be able to understand your body and the control that you have over it.

Also if you are consistant ......with your eatting and training during your first 5 yrs , come to the fact you won't be getting that much bigger after that point. So you will need to access things and make a personal decision from there .[ do you use gear and cross over to the dark side or not ? Does it reallly make sense or is it really worth it for you] If you decide not to go that route you can scale back your nutrition some ...........slowly lighten some of your loads in the gym ......and maintain a healthy lean good looking physique for the rest of your life .If you decide to go to the darkside ,then I would continue progressing to 2 grams of protein per lb of bdywt , same carbs rec and variences , and keep the good fats going up as well.........meals would be slowly pushed over the next couple of yrs up to 8-10 like Massive G did . [this is only for the guys on gear that are trying to be monsters and not fun or practical to do imo] After you get to that point for a couples of yrs ....then you are a top pro or athlete or you should start scaling back to something more realistic and healthy ........along the lines of a lower kal mountain dog diet .[ again this part was only for the elite trying to push their limits and not nessary for at least 90 % of guys to ever go that far]

Training .......I 'd say build your fondation......most should start with full body 3 x a week routines for their first 6 months to a yr .Pushing the wts but mastering contraction , form , and cadince. Then move to the basic 4 day a week heavy 2 way splits the next year or 2 after that . [and you kind of blast and cruise during that ......6-8 wks heavy .....then a month of super sets , working fast and furious .....for recovery and to keep interesting as well] By year 3 ,if you have done it all right . I 'd venture to DC's training methods following his methods to a tee. Then after about 2 yrs of that hell you should be pretty burnt out and beat up . At that time you hire Phil or do some research and evolve into his program or maybe some of massive G's stuff.....Then at that point ,after a couple of yrs ......you are easily maxed out , or a pro of some kind . Once that point is reached .....access things .....you 've earned all your mass .....built a physique for a lifetime...... you can scale back to an easier, less risky , more enjoyable training style and ride out into the sunset with a great physique for the rest of your life.

My take is that most on this board .....should take a step back and do it this way even if you have yrs in the gym and have used gear[take some time off and start over]........the fact is, most didn't get their foundations right and are going to end up fat ,unhappy , hurt , unhealthy guys on the couch in to their 40s and 50s .......and it doesn't have to be like that if you are smart and play your cards rt. [There are no secrets , but patients, hard work , and consistancy .......anyone that tells you different in this game is selling you something] Remember the tortise gets the hair every time my friend.........I hope that helped answer your question
 
Diezel 666 of course I remember you well ..........always enjoyed communicating with you in the past .......how are you and the family ?

deizel city.......


Most guys should do it this way ........and this kinda of the way I did it


Diet .......No 1 thing to get down if you are serious about gaining size ......But unlike a lot of guys .......just like you need to progress and push your wts up in the gym .You need to do the same with your food intake when in your growing yrs.........If you are new to the game ......meaning haven't been really truely consistant with your eatting ,then I would make an effort to make that your number one focus. Start with 4 meals a day [6-7 is too much for most to deal with right away with any consistancy, and most people eat too much anyway] ,try for a gram of protien per lb of bdy wt and .5 to 2 grams of carbs depending on bdy fat , and then add in some good healthy fats . [ try to eat healthy raw or organic foods] In time as you add mass ,you slowly bump up the food , each yr or every few months . [An example would be yr 1 would be the marcos above ,then say by yr 3 you are at say 7 meals a day and a 1.5 grams of protien per lb ,fats have increased , and carbs go up according to wt and time of the yr] You have to build a diet that is progressive when trying to gain mass , with foods that you like , and a schedule that fits your lifestyle . If you don't ,you will fail ,and not stick to it for the long run , and that is where most will fail early on .
I also think one should diet 3 months of each yr , even if new to the game. This is good for the metabolism , and will keep you from getting too fat .[this is even for guys that don't wish to compete] You should be able to understand your body and the control that you have over it.

Also if you are consistant ......with your eatting and training during your first 5 yrs , come to the fact you won't be getting that much bigger after that point. So you will need to access things and make a personal decision from there .[ do you use gear and cross over to the dark side or not ? Does it reallly make sense or is it really worth it for you] If you decide not to go that route you can scale back your nutrition some ...........slowly lighten some of your loads in the gym ......and maintain a healthy lean good looking physique for the rest of your life .If you decide to go to the darkside ,then I would continue progressing to 2 grams of protein per lb of bdywt , same carbs rec and variences , and keep the good fats going up as well.........meals would be slowly pushed over the next couple of yrs up to 8-10 like Massive G did . [this is only for the guys on gear that are trying to be monsters and not fun or practical to do imo] After you get to that point for a couples of yrs ....then you are a top pro or athlete or you should start scaling back to something more realistic and healthy ........along the lines of a lower kal mountain dog diet .[ again this part was only for the elite trying to push their limits and not nessary for at least 90 % of guys to ever go that far]

Training .......I 'd say build your fondation......most should start with full body 3 x a week routines for their first 6 months to a yr .Pushing the wts but mastering contraction , form , and cadince. Then move to the basic 4 day a week heavy 2 way splits the next year or 2 after that . [and you kind of blast and cruise during that ......6-8 wks heavy .....then a month of super sets , working fast and furious .....for recovery and to keep interesting as well] By year 3 ,if you have done it all right . I 'd venture to DC's training methods following his methods to a tee. Then after about 2 yrs of that hell you should be pretty burnt out and beat up . At that time you hire Phil or do some research and evolve into his program or maybe some of massive G's stuff.....Then at that point ,after a couple of yrs ......you are easily maxed out , or a pro of some kind . Once that point is reached .....access things .....you 've earned all your mass .....built a physique for a lifetime...... you can scale back to an easier, less risky , more enjoyable training style and ride out into the sunset with a great physique for the rest of your life.

My take is that most on this board .....should take a step back and do it this way even if you have yrs in the gym and have used gear[take some time off and start over]........the fact is, most didn't get their foundations right and are going to end up fat ,unhappy , hurt , unhealthy guys on the couch in to their 40s and 50s .......and it doesn't have to be like that if you are smart and play your cards rt. [There are no secrets , but patients, hard work , and consistancy .......anyone that tells you different in this game is selling you something] Remember the tortise gets the hair every time my friend.........I hope that helped answer your question

Solid info! Thank you!
 
IABAD, thank you for starting this thread. I always take away good info or thoughts to ponder from your posts. I'll be reading.... thanks for your time to do this.

Deadliver
 

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