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My fascination with injectable L-carnitine

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I train fasted first thing in the AM (6-7am) and don’t eat until 3pm or so.

Planned on 200mg pre-w/o daily long term (5 days/week) .. no slin.

Waste of time?
NOPE! Although I would do 7 days per week.
 

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It's crazy what a difference the combo of synthetine and tadalafil do to me when I add them back in. I add/subtract things in all the time but all the main things are the same. I have been using slin on/off and that obviously helps with fullness but when I add 5ml synthetine within a few days I am noticeably leaner and tighter and more vascular. Tadalafil for me is crazy for vascularity and helps with overall muscle pumps so when using the combination the feeling (especially when training) is fantastic. The only issue with tadalafil is I was in the gym before training arms and for me I looked great and my arms looked super full and vascular but my face was so flushed (bright red) so it just looks odd :eek::D
 

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Yamamoto introduced a "new" carnitine that they claim is 100%bio available. It's called carniblast Thoughts?
 

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This can viewed as confirmational bias given the funding and conflict of interest. Although, one shouldn't omit the array of physicochemical properties that carnitine possess. In regards to the subject at hand, viral entry. Carnitine has been demonstrated to facilitate as an inhibitor of type 1 histone deacetylases. This particular enzymatic machinery has been repeatedly explored as a key player with virulence factors- movement and attachment (viral entry) to host cells, proteins, enzymes, ect.

I'm sure there's a multitude of other immunological robustness by-way of carnitine.

Again, this isn't "peer-reviewed" to speak in absolutes.


I understood nothing of what you wrote.. Lol

Always love your posts but can you elaborate in simplest terms on what this means? Lol
 

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I understood nothing of what you wrote.. Lol

Always love your posts but can you elaborate in simplest terms on what this means? Lol

Carnitine -may- act as an antiviral.

Although, within the cited literature, the funding came by way from, Lonza, in which they hold a patent on a form of carnitine. So in this context, it can be viewed as being bias within some of their endpoints. I dunno for sure?

Lonza is a fairly big name in nutraceuticals (supplements that -may- act like pharmaceuticals) and pharmaceuticals

All that to the side. Carnitine is somewhat of an immunomodulator (helps in balancing our immune system) that's been used in a few "antiviral" studies.

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Exactly, he has since abandoned it for a reason. But again, waste your money if you want no reason to listen to me.

Rex.
To quote John himself from today “It works and well. I'm just disappointed so many solutions out there are causing so much injection pain. That is not normal.”
 

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The l-tartrate version wasn't nice to inject so I stopped using it

I just ordered some carnitine base and an electronic PH gauge

I'm going to try again and make sure the PH is perfect
 

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The l-tartrate version wasn't nice to inject so I stopped using it

I just ordered some carnitine base and an electronic PH gauge

I'm going to try again and make sure the PH is perfect
Is the PH meter needed ?
I know preparations with just distilled water, ba, and carn base powder. Injects pain free at 1g/ml
Maybe guys need to balance PH since they're probably using alcar or some other form other than base
 

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Is the PH meter needed ?
I know preparations with just distilled water, ba, and carn base powder. Injects pain free at 1g/ml
Maybe guys need to balance PH since they're probably using alcar or some other form other than base
I dunno but that sounds awesome .... The electric PH meter only costed me $11 including prime shipping so its not a big deal when the trade off is insurance that the end solution is nice
 

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Yamamoto introduced a "new" carnitine that they claim is 100%bio available. It's called carniblast Thoughts?

Nutritional information​

90 Caplets
Mean analysis
Per dose 1 tablet
Per dose (1 tablet)
Carnitine (from L-Carnitine Tartrate and Propionyl Carnitine HCl)660 mg
Coenzyme Q10100 mg
Ingredients: Propionyl L-Carnitine HCl, L-Carnitine Tartrate, bulking agent: microcrystalline cellulose; Coenzyme Q10, anti-caking agents: magnesium salts of fatty acids, silicon dioxide.
How to use: take 1 tablet once a day with a glass of water.

100% my rear but I am open to blood tests proving otherwise, which I would bet the farm they don't have. GPLC I do believe has better absorption but I also know it is VERY difficult to work with and expensive comparatively so the fact that it is second in a prop blend I think it is safe to assume they put almost none of it in there. You can't claim you are protecting your secret ratios when there are only two ingredients, BS product if you ask me. I even see they have it listed second on the label and first for the ingredients so they cannot even follow basic label laws, what a joke.
 

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NOPE! Although I would do 7 days per week.B

NOPE! Although I would do 7 days per week.
B I take my dose 3 to 4 times a week and the skin when I remember but even 2 iu makes me tired. And it's not from lack of carbs. It just makes me tired. Could I just drink a Gatorade, get around 100 grams of carbs. Could I get the same effect roughly? And since this builds up in your system, I can take it any time correct?
NOPE! Although I would do 7 days per week.

Even the b12 combo they sell?
 

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I take 2 ml of the SYNTHESELEN and 3 ml of the SYNTHETINE and fill the rest with the liver protectant. 5 ml syringes are great for this stuff. Has the liver protectant been hurting anyone? This shit hurts. I can almost only put it in my shoulders without it feeling to painful. I don't remember it being like that before.
 

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I take 2 ml of the SYNTHESELEN and 3 ml of the SYNTHETINE and fill the rest with the liver protectant. 5 ml syringes are great for this stuff. Has the liver protectant been hurting anyone? This shit hurts. I can almost only put it in my shoulders without it feeling to painful. I don't remember it being like that before.

Just drink the liver protector. The other 2 you inject. Syntheselen stings me a little for 30 mins max and synthetine is completely pain free for me even at 5ml. I have never injected synthergine so I wouldn't know.
 

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Nice! Except for the red face

5mg Cialis?

I never replied to this but yes 5mg cialis. I was using Geno's 20mg cialis and snapping them in half and they were too strong. I love them but I started getting headaches occasionally. The pumps, vascularity, tightness etc are fantastic but the headaches can be really annoying so I haven't used them for awhile. I got some 5mg cialis and they are similar but I seem to flush really badly on them. I don't usually care what I look like especially in the gym but this is extreme facial flushing like I have just taken 1mg melatotan :eek:
 

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I take 2 ml of the SYNTHESELEN and 3 ml of the SYNTHETINE and fill the rest with the liver protectant. 5 ml syringes are great for this stuff. Has the liver protectant been hurting anyone? This shit hurts. I can almost only put it in my shoulders without it feeling to painful. I don't remember it being like that before.
No need to inject Synthergine, just drink it.
 

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I brewed some l carnitine base at 1g/ml and it's painless, only problem is it is so thick it takes 5 minutes to draw out one ml and it's impossible to push through anything smaller than a 29g
 

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I’m an Injectable L-Carn Newbie. Was doing some reading on it and came across this information.

Any validity to any of these claims?

There is an increased risk of cardiovascular issues such as atherosclerosis with prolonged use of l-carnitine.

L-carnitine is known to interact with thyroid medication, reducing its efficacy.

It increases the efficacy of Warfarin and Acenocoumarol, thereby raising the risk of excessive bleeding or bruising.

 

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I’m an Injectable L-Carn Newbie. Was doing some reading on it and came across this information.

Any validity to any of these claims?

There is an increased risk of cardiovascular issues such as atherosclerosis with prolonged use of l-carnitine.

L-carnitine is known to interact with thyroid medication, reducing its efficacy.

It increases the efficacy of Warfarin and Acenocoumarol, thereby raising the risk of excessive bleeding or bruising.

I don't know if it was in this thread of one of the several others but I think the common consensus was that it was only an issue with high dose oral use of L-Carnitine powder.
I could be completely wrong but that seems to come to mind
 

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