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Need opinion on my nekst cycel!

Old Qua.

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I have never ben ON for more than 12 weeks, and the past year I have done only 4 weeks cycels.
now I have desidet to try to stay on lorng time.
I'm planin to do this cycel, but woudt like your opinion on it!!



My Mass Cycel:
WEEK
1 - 5: 35mg Dbol per day
1 - 5: 20mcg T3 per day
1 - 8: 875mg test enantethe per week
1 - 8: 600mg deca per week
9 - 13: 45mg Dbol per day
9 - 13: 20mcg T3 per day
9 - 18: 1250mg test cypionathe per week
9 - 16: 600mg Eq per week
17-17: 400mg Eq per week
18-18: 400mg Eq per week
19-19: 750mg test cypionathe per week
20-20: 500mg test cypionathe per week
21-21: 250mg Test cypionathe per week
22-24: 50mg winny EOD
24-25: 2500iu hcg per week
24-28: 20mg Nolvadex per day
25-26: 100mg clormid per day (300mg the first day)
27-28: 50 mg clormid per day

I will allso rún 2500iu hcg per week in week 4, 8, 12, 16 and 20.
I Will allso take 10mg nolvadex per day in week 4,8,12,16 and 20.
 

xcelbeyond

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I would suggest doing hcg during last 2 weeks of cycle - 23-24 along with a GOOD anti-e. Divide up doses to no more than 1500iu ED.

xcel
 

Old Qua.

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Ok, Thanks!
But aint Nolvadex a good anti-E?
In Denmark wer I live, it's not posibel to get feks. arimidex.
Even Nolva is hard!
Do you think I need more than 20mg per day postcycel?
 

maddog

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Bro you have only done 4 week cycles? The cycle you have listed is to much for you..Sorry not trying to bust your chops but a good 12 week cycle will benefit you more...JMO.....
 

Old Qua.

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maddog:
I have done 12 weeks cycels, I started out that way!
The 4 weeks cycels I have done the past year have ben
30days on/10days off.
however I will have just finist my last 30days on period last day, and norw want to give my body 30days of rest before this lorng cycel.
Hope that you do not stil think that I'm not ready!
 

superman1975

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why not run 750mg test for 16wks, 600mg of EQ for 16ks, 40mg of dbol the first 4 wks, and the winny the last 4 wks

no need to run a 28 wk cycle without growth hormone in it
 

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i would just like to ask why you want to run a longer cycle have you been doing well with the short ones ?
 

Old Qua.

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Done fine with the short ones!
Just want to take it a to the nexst level!
Have ben thinking a lot about wath Big A says about not comming off, but woud kike too try this for a start, and after that I can deside iff just staing on is the best for me!
 

henry

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T3 is a shit, it doesn't work properly! T4 is a better choice to optimize your metabolism! then, I'd inj 400UI HCG SC twice weekly from third week for each week (to simulate our own natural LH and FSH release). 300mg clomid the first day is useless because clomiphene doesn't directly stimulate pituitary gland; it works using biofeedback signals (the body means that there are too much estrogen using clomifene so more testosterone must be produced), so 100mg the first day then 50mg /ED works fine! Remember that clomifene causes testes cancer!!! I never use clomifene! My recovery is letrozole + finasteride, to increase my own testosterone production fastly with no estrogenic sides!!!

JM2C

P.S. Excuse my english! :p
 

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Clomid causes testes cancer? Thats the first Ive heard of that in all my years...:confused:
Id think if that were true, it would be well know in the BB community.
 

henry

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MikeS said:
Clomid causes testes cancer? Thats the first Ive heard of that in all my years...:confused:
Id think if that were true, it would be well know in the BB community.
see at these:

Br J Urol 1992 Jun;69(6):659-60
Development of Leydig cell tumour in association with clomiphene treatment for oligozoospermia.

Urology 1990 Dec;36(6):557-60
Testicular calcifications and neoplasia in patient treated for subfertility.

Acta Endocrinol (Copenh) 1987 Jul;115(3):365-72
Endocrine investigations in two cases of feminizing Leydig cell tumour.

J Urol 1985 Sep;134(3):560-2
Testicular germ cell tumors after clomiphene therapy for subfertility.

Lancet 1981 Oct 3;2(8249):754
Testicular tumour associated with hormonal treatment for oligospermia.

Can Med Assoc J 1973 Sep 15;109(6):502-3 passim
Development of a testicular tumour during cisclomiphene therapy.
 

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