Need some help with my G/F. Estrogen??

Fullybuilt · Aug 6, 2006

Ok, she has all the classic signs of too high of estrogen. Regular menses but very short(1-2days) Fat gain in site specific areas. Rapid weight gain. Excessive water retention,thyroid problems,headaches, low sex drive,etc..... Now my ? is, she is gonna get bloodwork done before she starts meds to lower her estrogen, and we are gonna go through directlabs.com but there are like 4 diff estrogen tests
total estrogen
Estradiol
Estriol
Estrone

Which one do we need. I know I always get estradiol done to make sure my estro is low but will she need all of them? Whats most important.

Also, if it is too high, should she use something like nolvadex or adex? And what doses? Thanks

dwayno · Aug 6, 2006

Adex isnt approved for use in pre-menopausal(sp) women...

Fullybuilt · Aug 6, 2006

Im thinking nolva wont work b/c doesnt that only decrease estro where gyno is prone. Maybe aromasin. They have to have something out for women with estro too high right?

b-boy · Aug 6, 2006

some female competitors that i know use nolva, and says it works well but when loosing weight your girl will drop breast size quicker than she would with just normal dieting due to the nolva. if she has fake ones then this is not a problem.

dwayno · Aug 6, 2006

b-boy said:
some female competitors that i know use nolva, and says it works well but when loosing weight your girl will drop breast size quicker than she would with just normal dieting due to the nolva. if she has fake ones then this is not a problem.

true...and I have seen this happen...the problem with young females is they produce estrogen from many different areas of the body, do shutting down receptors or blocking them doesnt do awhole lot but proviron will help with the hardnest I think you;re looking for...anyone ever tried letro on a female????

Fullybuilt · Aug 6, 2006

So what about something like adex or aromasin. Doesnt block estro from all angles where nolva only does in the chest area? If so, what would a good dose of adex or aromasin be? Or just stick with 20mg nolvadex.

BigBoyJ · Aug 6, 2006

Adex a letro are aromatase inhibitors. That means that they inhibit the action of the aromatase enzyme which converts testosterone into estrogen. Since women's estrogen production doesn't begin as testosterone, an aromatase inhibitor won't do much to solve the problem of high estrogen. Instead, you need an estrogen blocker (nolvadex). And nolva isn't specific to the breast tissue. It binds to all estrogen receptors throughout the body because the molecule actually fits into the receptors better than real estrogen.

In other words, an aromatase inhibitor ain't gonna do shit. She needs an estrogen blocker.

lucian · Aug 7, 2006

???

how do you stop A rebound when comming off the nolva if its all she is taking??
lucian

BigBoyJ · Aug 7, 2006

lucian said:
how do you stop A rebound when comming off the nolva if its all she is taking??
lucian

You don't.

Fullybuilt · Aug 7, 2006

So basically its either stay on nolvadex forever or don't use it at all?

lucian · Aug 7, 2006

??

so will she gain all kinds of fat and water? i dont want my girl to use it if its gonna rebound and mess her up. any other suggestions for helping her lean out faster?
lucian

flexmaster · Aug 7, 2006

maybe

Fullybuilt said:
Ok, she has all the classic signs of too high of estrogen. Regular menses but very short(1-2days) Fat gain in site specific areas. Rapid weight gain. Excessive water retention,thyroid problems,headaches, low sex drive,etc..... Now my ? is, she is gonna get bloodwork done before she starts meds to lower her estrogen, and we are gonna go through directlabs.com but there are like 4 diff estrogen tests
total estrogen
Estradiol
Estriol
Estrone

Which one do we need. I know I always get estradiol done to make sure my estro is low but will she need all of them? Whats most important.

Also, if it is too high, should she use something like nolvadex or adex? And what doses? Thanks

you should take her off the drugs you are giving her?!?!