New to the forum. Beginner questions.

[cachexic]

Hey, just discovered this forum recently. It's a really good source of information.

I'm planning on starting my first cycle in less than 2 months. I'm doing 500 mg/week of test.E, split into two injections for 12 weeks. Nolva/clomid for PCT.

I'm eager to start, but I'm just really uneasy about injections and made this thread so that hopefully someone can put my mind at ease. The more I read the more it seems that problems from injections seem to pop up a lot for people. I'm worried about getting an infection or something else bad happening, hitting a nerve or whatever.

I had previously thought that it was only careless/stupid people who had these problems, but it seems like some pretty careful/mindful people even have problems with doing injections.

If I'm just doing the two test injections a week, can I stick to strictly glutes? I don't like the idea of injecting quads. And do you think I'll have to boil my bottle of test before I inject it to reduce viscosity and thus pain from the injection?

Also....looking at the instructions on howtodoinjections, it seems the proper injection site is a pretty small area.

I feel worried I won't pin myself in the exact right spot and hit too close to the hip or something.

 

[johnnythunders]

pinning

yo man welcome to the forum and there's a lot of great info on here. I have the same problem with nervousness about pinning. best thing you can do is make sure you understand where in the glute you need to pin in order to miss the nerves, veins, etc. I even used to mark the site with a pen when i first started. also, I go slow as opposed to the "dart" method. I really dont want to hit something i shouldn't lol. Best thing for me is to give the site a quick slap to sorta deaden the nerves, pull the skin tight, and go in steadily. I also play some hardcore music to get my nerves up too lol. oh and also, I usually pin twice a week and just rotate sides. I dont like pinning sites other than the glutes or delts. Oh yeah... and remember to aspirate always... I forgotten to a time or two and that really messes with my head lol

 

[BigChef]

Hi and Welcome to the PM. Can you tell us a bit bout yourself please such as, how long you been lifting? Diet? Weight and height etc.

 

[cachexic]

Hi and Welcome to the PM. Can you tell us a bit bout yourself please such as, how long you been lifting? Diet? Weight and height etc.

Hi, thanks.

I suppose I could answer those questions.

5'10''
184 lbs

I have lifted seriously and with dedication for a little over a year now. I know plenty of people will see a big problem with that, and say something if you wish, but I understand how to train and eat properly. I haven't just been dicking around this whole time. I've been lifting at least 3 times a week and reading fitness (as well as steroid) related sources of information like PM the whole time. My brain has been a sponge for this stuff for a full year now. I've learned a lot.

I'm ready for some testosterone even if I haven't reached my natural limits. I figure why train naturally for several more years and improve slowly when I can just responsibly use some testosterone now to give me a boost?

On diet I have lately been on a low calorie/high protein diet trying to cut down to 8% BF before I start my cycle.

 

[Michaelthomasj]

I really dont think that there are so many problems with pinning. how to inject is a must read if your new, and just make sure you are sanitary. Use alcohol on the site, and dont reuse pins. Other then that be safe and good luck. I dont boil my vials, but i know some people that do. I have never had a problem with unsanitary gear. With that being said consider your source.

 

[maldorf]

I might add that since you are using test e, there really is no reason to have to inject 2x per week. Once per week is fine. This way you only have one stick per week, which is nice for beginners. The half life of that is long enough that you wont experience any ups or downs. Just stick to the glutes and youre good to go. Be sure to aspirate before pushing down on the plunger. As above, never reuse pins. If you want a really smooth injection, use something like a 22 to draw and then a new 23 gauge to shoot. I would not go smaller than a 23 gauge, because its too hard to push it out.

 

[cachexic]

I might add that since you are using test e, there really is no reason to have to inject 2x per week. Once per week is fine. This way you only have one stick per week, which is nice for beginners. The half life of that is long enough that you wont experience any ups or downs. Just stick to the glutes and youre good to go. Be sure to aspirate before pushing down on the plunger. As above, never reuse pins. If you want a really smooth injection, use something like a 22 to draw and then a new 23 gauge to shoot. I would not go smaller than a 23 gauge, because its too hard to push it out.

Thank you so much for the advice.

I actually thought of injecting just once a week but the person who helped me plan my first cycle said that it would probably be too painful since I'm a newbie. He said 250 would hurt badly enough. I'd certainly prefer keeping it to one a week, though. Cut the risk of something bad happening in half.

 

[rjrjschultz]

53 yr. old on male HRT; serum Test. level hit unprecedented level of 4839 ng./dl

20 weeks ago I started on a male H.R.T. (hormone replacement therapy) for anti-aging. 53 yrs.old. My testosterone level was 325ng/dl., IGF-1 was low at 59, FSH was 2.7, Luteinizing hormone at 2.8(both on the low end of normal). Free testosterone was 8.3 (low normal).Estradiol was normal. This national anti-aging clinic put me on the following weekly regimen: 220mg. test. cypionate(I.M), 500 I.U. of HCG twice a week, and 1.2 mg. of anastozole twice a week.

My energy level went through the roof, my libido increased, my body aches and pains decreased significantly, increased the quality and quantity of my workout days. Everything going great........although I did notice my testicles shrinking about 1 month ago.

Had my blood work rechecked on 12/31/2009. I was concerned about the Low IGF-1 reading, low eGFR(was 58), and high serum creatinine level(1.29) on the first blood test. (kidney and liver function readings).

By current blood test results were a complete shock by me AND the anti-aging clinic. My testosterone level was 4839 ng./dl. (the clinic had NEVER seen a reading that high before. They had the lab run another test to make sure.) My Free testosterone went to 49.0 (normal is 7.2 - 24.0). Luteinizing hormone was .02 and FSH was 0.3 (extremely low). My estradiol was 85.3(normal 7.6 - 42.6). my sex hormone binding Glob. was 51.9 (normal 14.5 - 48.4(previous was 48)). my IGF-1 went to 79. Still low, but improving. I started taking sermorelin 2 1/2 months ago(200 mcg. at EOD) I switched to CJC-1295 w/dac and GHRP-6 about 1-1/2 weeks ago.(taking 50 mcg. at EOD with 50 mcg of GHRP-6 EOD).

I was told today by the clinic that my body is not metabolizing the testosterone cypionate and its just accumulating. My estradiol is high because the testosterone is breaking down into estradiol. My FSH and LH hormone was low because my testicles had shut down (even though I was taking HCG). I,ve have read quite a few articles on the internet and various posts on this forum and never heard of a situation like this. Is this clinic response REAL?

The clinic is reducing my test. cypionate down to 110 mg( 1/2 cc.) per week, increased anastrozole to 1.2 mg 3 times per week, adding Tamoxephen (11 mg. ea., 3 times per week for the next 4 weeks), Increase my HCG from 1000 IU per week to 3000 IU per week for the next 4 weeks. In one month they want me start taking Stanozolol troche for one month total.

Any constructive feedback would be greatly appreciated. thanks

 

[cachexic]

Uh.

 

[bobbym17]

u will b fine

yes i would pin once a week just do as u suppose to clean the top of botle wit alc everytime and yr iject site i pin in glutes the 1st time is a bit scarry but go slow just keep pushin and it will reach a point when u in were it goes easy asp, then push plunger in slowly but for starters draw with 1 needle and change it for yr inject this makes a big diff for yr 1st time i use 22g for it sum say this gives more pain but i have had none its all in the mind go slow and i look forward to my pins now and when u remove the pin dont get freaked if a stream of blood follows it haps sumtime i just cover wit my finger for a few secs and it done thaen swap wit a alc cooton ball alll good

 

[gordo14]

New thread

20 weeks ago I started on a male H.R.T. (hormone replacement therapy) for anti-aging. 53 yrs.old. My testosterone level was 325ng/dl., IGF-1 was low at 59, FSH was 2.7, Luteinizing hormone at 2.8(both on the low end of normal). Free testosterone was 8.3 (low normal).Estradiol was normal. This national anti-aging clinic put me on the following weekly regimen: 220mg. test. cypionate(I.M), 500 I.U. of HCG twice a week, and 1.2 mg. of anastozole twice a week.

My energy level went through the roof, my libido increased, my body aches and pains decreased significantly, increased the quality and quantity of my workout days. Everything going great........although I did notice my testicles shrinking about 1 month ago.

Had my blood work rechecked on 12/31/2009. I was concerned about the Low IGF-1 reading, low eGFR(was 58), and high serum creatinine level(1.29) on the first blood test. (kidney and liver function readings).

By current blood test results were a complete shock by me AND the anti-aging clinic. My testosterone level was 4839 ng./dl. (the clinic had NEVER seen a reading that high before. They had the lab run another test to make sure.) My Free testosterone went to 49.0 (normal is 7.2 - 24.0). Luteinizing hormone was .02 and FSH was 0.3 (extremely low). My estradiol was 85.3(normal 7.6 - 42.6). my sex hormone binding Glob. was 51.9 (normal 14.5 - 48.4(previous was 48)). my IGF-1 went to 79. Still low, but improving. I started taking sermorelin 2 1/2 months ago(200 mcg. at EOD) I switched to CJC-1295 w/dac and GHRP-6 about 1-1/2 weeks ago.(taking 50 mcg. at EOD with 50 mcg of GHRP-6 EOD).

I was told today by the clinic that my body is not metabolizing the testosterone cypionate and its just accumulating. My estradiol is high because the testosterone is breaking down into estradiol. My FSH and LH hormone was low because my testicles had shut down (even though I was taking HCG). I,ve have read quite a few articles on the internet and various posts on this forum and never heard of a situation like this. Is this clinic response REAL?

The clinic is reducing my test. cypionate down to 110 mg( 1/2 cc.) per week, increased anastrozole to 1.2 mg 3 times per week, adding Tamoxephen (11 mg. ea., 3 times per week for the next 4 weeks), Increase my HCG from 1000 IU per week to 3000 IU per week for the next 4 weeks. In one month they want me start taking Stanozolol troche for one month total.

Any constructive feedback would be greatly appreciated. thanks

Start a new thread for your question. And put it in the main fprum. You will get alot better responses, and experiances.