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Ok im confused about the whole "nolvadex doesnt work on HGH" thing. If you cant use nolvadex while using HGH then what should I do for PCT. I wanna run my HGH during pct and a little bit after, but I usually do HCG,clomid and nolva for PCT. Will the nolva not be effective if im on the HGH or is it only not effective for gyno, but will still lower estrogen? Thanks
 
use letro till u come off, get estro levels down the last 2 weeks, then let clomid take care of the rest. nolva will not ruin ur gh. its not a that complicated u know what to do, stop overcomplicating it.
 
I know nolva won't ruin the GH but I like using nolva with hcg and clomid during pct. Im just worried that the nolva won't reduce estro levels like it normally does if im on GH during pct.
 
nolva doesnt reduce estro levels at all, it merely blocks it from attaching to receptor sites. u need adex or letro to lower estrogen levels. use that for 2 weeks before u come off and a week after, and use normal pct. with nolva and gh, it has to do with gh's conversion to igf. minute in studies and probably makes little to no difference in this situation.
 
Ok so are you saying that nolvadex will still do its job during PCT when taking it with HCG and clomid, it just wont help with gyno.
 
nolva will still help with gyno by binding to the receptors in the breast tissue which prevints the estro from binding and causing gyno. nolva does not reduce the amount of estro that is circulating in the body. to lower estro levels, u need the letro or adex. it reduces levels by not allowing estro to be be made in the first place. see how that works? letro prevents it from being made from too much test, where nolva works for once it has already been made, it blocks it from attaching to the receptors that cause gyno. the reason u want to lower estro levels before u come off, is because when u start juicin ur test levels rise, then ur body tries to normalize by overproducing estogen and cortisol. when u stop taking test, ur body continues to overproduce estro and cortisol quickly switching the balance to muscle loss. so to prevent this, u want to decrease the amount of estro in ur body with letro before u lower the level of test. it helps u to get normalized faster, so u can keep more muscle when u get off. i u got all that. if not tell me and ill try again.
 
Ok now I am confused.

I thought it had been decided that HCG was NOT for PCT but for DURING the cycle?
 
i was under the impression that the hcg gets ur nuts back to size and mimics natural LH production. from my understanding, the nuts have to get back to size before clomid will work, so hcg is done the last week of cycle, maybe a few days after everything cleared. then clomid, nolva.
 

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