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NPP crashed/problems?

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I have this friend that has some stealth NPP. He was trying to put it in a large 30ml vial that he had left over from HCG. HCG was pretty much gone, except for the very small amount that he couldnt get out.

In any case, he loaded 20ml in. In the end, it looked liked NPP crashed as there were 'heavy' looking oily bubbles floating around.

Here is what he did at this point. We warmed up some water in the microwave that it was pretty much boiling. The 30ml vial went into that hot water for about 2 min. After that, nothing really had improved. At which point he shook the vial vigorously. This has blended the solution but at this point it turned milky or cloudy. Few hours in and it's still cloudy.

Here are my questions:

1) any ideas what has happened? Was it a crush?
2) I know most medicine, including AAS, should be stored below 86F. I know that some people heat their gear, especially prop. Now I'm thinking why the warning if people are still warming the gear - I even think that some that make it boil it too? Did the heat destroy the NPP?

Any input advice would be appreciated. Basically, I would like to know if the NPP is still good.

Thanks.
 
I think it's cloudy because it mixed with whatever hcg was in there,the water is probably causing all this. he should've just bought a new vial, they're like 50 cents
 
the hcg solution is biologically active, IMO your mates just wasted 30ml of npp
 
We warmed up some water in the microwave that it was pretty much boiling. The 30ml vial went into that hot water for about 2 min. After that, nothing really had improved. At which point he shook the vial vigorously.

Not very helpful in your situation, but that's kinda what I do with my liquid SERM/AI when they 'crystallize' or form a precipitate after a year of sitting around, I put it in the microwave for 10 seconds (it boils), and it's good to go :D (doesn't ruin the properties of it at all, just vibrates the water molecules a little).
 
the hcg solution is biologically active, IMO your mates just wasted 30ml of npp

I don't think there could've been more than 10IUs of HCG left and from what I know, it was pretty old - 4 months or so.

Does anyone think that this would've been enough to 'spoil' the NPP? I don't know much about chemistry, but why would the two react making NPP useless. If the consensus is that the gear is useless, then be it, but I don't think he wants to throw it out if it's still good.

Yeah, kind of silly to re-use the vial.
 
bro, from what i read, it was def. the hcg. take a couple drops of water (hcg) and add it to 10ml oil and watch what happens.
 
bro, from what i read, it was def. the hcg. take a couple drops of water (hcg) and add it to 10ml oil and watch what happens.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was as well. The oil was fine in the pin.

So, what does it mean? Is it bunk now or can it still be used, it's just crushed and is cloudy but still good?

No one wants to put their health in jeopardy, but if the gear is still good no point wasting it.
 
It wasn't because of the HCG. Phenylprop crashes for some reason. I had test phenyl crash on me and npp. I would never use it again. Somebody suggested I should have used a 2/20 mix of BB and BA. You could try adding more BA and heating it but I'm sure it will probably be painful as hell. I would dilute it with something else like your test when you shoot it. Stick to nand dec., no problems and it doesn't crash.
 

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