Personal trainer for 1 month.

[Stang]

I am getting a P.T. for a month to help me out with some new exercises,nutrition,coaching,spotting..whatever. Wanting to make some good gains while on. My gym $1000.00. which includes working out 4 X week. Cardio on my own...if I choose. Just wondering who has a pt and benefits, price?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

HUH

I am getting a P.T. for a month to help me out with some new exercises,nutrition,coaching,spotting..whatever. Wanting to make some good gains while on. My gym $1000.00. which includes working out 4 X week. Cardio on my own...if I choose. Just wondering who has a pt and benefits, price?

1 MONTH $1000? OMG......WHAT ARE THEIR CREDENTIALS?? WHO HAVE THEY TRAINED? CARDIO ON YOUR OWN IF YOU CHOOSE? 4x PER WEEK???? INCLUDES DIET/CHEF AND MAID???

 

[craig3758]

That's what I was thinking.A friend of mine does it 3 sessions for 150.00 to help get you started.Don't really think you need one more than that do you?That should get you going on all the exercises for your needs and your nutrition

 

[Stang]

1 MONTH $1000? OMG......WHAT ARE THEIR CREDENTIALS?? WHO HAVE THEY TRAINED? CARDIO ON YOUR OWN IF YOU CHOOSE? 4x PER WEEK???? INCLUDES DIET/CHEF AND MAID???

I agree...that's why I am asking. I've never had a pt before. I don't want to name,names. All I can say is that it is a Gold's in South Florida.

 

[Dusty Hanshaw]

I am getting a P.T. for a month to help me out with some new exercises,nutrition,coaching,spotting..whatever. Wanting to make some good gains while on. My gym $1000.00. which includes working out 4 X week. Cardio on my own...if I choose. Just wondering who has a pt and benefits, price?

To be honest that isn't a bad price if the person is well qualified and you understand completely what you are getting. You said you get four sessions a week for a month which would be 16 hours worth of sessions. That means they are only charging you $62.50 per hour which isn't bad at all. Most PT's offer package prices and the more sessions you purchase the cheaper it gets per session.

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[Air Supply]

Wow, that just seems like a ton of money.

Don't you have a friend that can help you out ?

 

[Sesshomaru]

Meh its not a ton, it comes out to be about 62.50 per session.

Anyway, as a trainer, I charge about that (more of a range depending on the situation). Is it worth it? My clients think so and I work hard to help them achieve their goals, but I do see some moronic trainers in gyms who make a killing as well. I feel sorry for their clients.

 

[wakejump4me]

........... All I can say is that it is a Gold's in South Florida.

where ? FT. Lauderdale area , Miami area ? i'd like to know..........

wake

 

[Stang]

Wakejump...u have mail.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

SHOOT

I CHARGE $250 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. AFTER A TRAINING OUTLINE TEST AND A TEST DIET TO SEE WHAT YOU NEED TO EAT AFTER 10-15 DAYS, WHAT MORE IS THERE BESIDES TWEAKING THINGS WHEN YOU HIT A PLATEAU? YOU WANT TO PAY A GUY TO HAVE YOU BENCH PRESS, SQUAT, LAT PULLDOWNS DAY AFTER DAY???

 

[dirkmoneyshot]

I CHARGE $250 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. AFTER A TRAINING OUTLINE TEST AND A TEST DIET TO SEE WHAT YOU NEED TO EAT AFTER 10-15 DAYS, WHAT MORE IS THERE BESIDES TWEAKING THINGS WHEN YOU HIT A PLATEAU? YOU WANT TO PAY A GUY TO HAVE YOU BENCH PRESS, SQUAT, LAT PULLDOWNS DAY AFTER DAY???

Phil thats what i was going to say.......The biggest benefit to having a trainer is having someone to get that extra 10% out of you. Biggest way to get around that Find a damn workout partner.

$1000 is just way to much for a month.....have someone with experience get you on the right path and update your program when you need it. Geez bodybuilding isn't rocket science like so many of you make it out to be.

 

[Sesshomaru]

I CHARGE $250 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. AFTER A TRAINING OUTLINE TEST AND A TEST DIET TO SEE WHAT YOU NEED TO EAT AFTER 10-15 DAYS, WHAT MORE IS THERE BESIDES TWEAKING THINGS WHEN YOU HIT A PLATEAU? YOU WANT TO PAY A GUY TO HAVE YOU BENCH PRESS, SQUAT, LAT PULLDOWNS DAY AFTER DAY???

Well I work with regular gym goers and athletes, both groups dont know shit about training. Now to someone who knows what theyre doing and wants something very specific or specialized (i.e. olympic lifting, strongman stuff, etc.) I usually dont charge because I try to give back to those sports.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

JUST A QUESTION

Well I work with regular gym goers and athletes, both groups dont know shit about training. Now to someone who knows what theyre doing and wants something very specific or specialized (i.e. olympic lifting, strongman stuff, etc.) I usually dont charge because I try to give back to those sports.

WHEN YOU SAY THEY DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT TRAINING, CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC? WHAT DO YOU TEACH THEM? TELL ME WHAT I WOULD GET FOR $65 AN HOUR IF I DID NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT TRAINING. ALSO, WHAT WOULD YOU GIVE BACK FOR FREE TO A WSM COMPETITOR? WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS? DID YOU GET A CERTIFICATE OR A COLLEGE DEGREE? DO YOU DO DIETS ALSO?

 

[Sesshomaru]

WHEN YOU SAY THEY DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT TRAINING, CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?

Im talking total beginners and people who have injuries or issues that could become injuries. These people have no idea about muscle balance, progression, flexibility, metabolism, or how to do exercises properly (even basic ones like squats, deadlifts, etc.)

WHAT DO YOU TEACH THEM? TELL ME WHAT I WOULD GET FOR $65 AN HOUR IF I DID NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT TRAINING.

I teach about muscle activation and how to listen to their body, what does what, how to do a movement properly, how to miss a lift, breathing, how to apply it outside of the gym, and if they have fat or muscle goals, how to diet given their circumstances. If I have an athlete, we do things to bring up their weaknesses and they still learn the stuff above, but also how to apply it in their sport. You can see TP4U's thread about his bro where I commented there. I also do trigger point work and some myofascial release for people who have overuse injuries or mobility and/or flexibility hindrances.

ALSO, WHAT WOULD YOU GIVE BACK FOR FREE TO A WSM COMPETITOR? WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS? DID YOU GET A CERTIFICATE OR A COLLEGE DEGREE? DO YOU DO DIETS ALSO?

If I were training someone for SM, and they needed help on improving a lift (say log press) I would check out their positioning and point out the weak links. Then explain how to stay in proper positions and exercises that will help. I may even video their lift so they can see.

Ive had several certifications over the years such as NSCA and ACE. I also have a coaching certification for Olympic Lifting via USAW. I dont have a degree in this stuff, but that hasnt kept me from learning about physical therapy, rehabilitation, myofascial release, etc.

Yes I will do diets for people and help people diet into certain weight classes for performance purposes. I make them for each client based on their work schedule, goal, training frequency, etc. and regular feedback.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Ok

Im talking total beginners and people who have injuries or issues that could become injuries. These people have no idea about muscle balance, progression, flexibility, metabolism, or how to do exercises properly (even basic ones like squats, deadlifts, etc.)



I teach about muscle activation and how to listen to their body, what does what, how to do a movement properly, how to miss a lift, breathing, how to apply it outside of the gym, and if they have fat or muscle goals, how to diet given their circumstances. If I have an athlete, we do things to bring up their weaknesses and they still learn the stuff above, but also how to apply it in their sport. You can see TP4U's thread about his bro where I commented there. I also do trigger point work and some myofascial release for people who have overuse injuries or mobility and/or flexibility hindrances.



If I were training someone for SM, and they needed help on improving a lift (say log press) I would check out their positioning and point out the weak links. Then explain how to stay in proper positions and exercises that will help. I may even video their lift so they can see.

Ive had several certifications over the years such as NSCA and ACE. I also have a coaching certification for Olympic Lifting via USAW. I dont have a degree in this stuff, but that hasnt kept me from learning about physical therapy, rehabilitation, myofascial release, etc.

Yes I will do diets for people and help people diet into certain weight classes for performance purposes. I make them for each client based on their work schedule, goal, training frequency, etc. and regular feedback.

1. Once you teach the about balance, progression, flexibility and metabolism or how to do the exercises properly, isnt the next training session something a workout partner can observe? I mean, they need to pay you to show them progression, flexibility, metabolism and proper form each workout?

2. Wouldn't your 2nd point, breathing, muscle activation??, listening to your body, what does what, how to miss a lift, how to apply it to outside of a gym?? fat or muscle goals all fit under that first session?

3. Trigger point and myofascial release, isnt that my chiropractor? Are you licensed to do that kind of work at your facility? Don't you need insurance and a degree?

4. Diets-Do you have a test period to see what and how your clients react? Do you just write a diet based on workout schedule and goal? What feedback do you look for?

5. How do your clients break plateaus? What is your strategy for this?

 

[Rob Roy]

I think that there are a couple of key points being neglected in the thread. When I initially meet with a client I immediately explain that if they're looking for program design, that can be achieved within 3 sessions. This side of the game is pretty damn basic and Yes I agree with the points that Phil is making although what you're missing is the simple fact that even with a solid program most need the acountability, motivation and will not or can not duplicate the same intensity level on their own. We have to remember that not everybody has the mentality of an elite athlete. Even many elite athletes LOL. As far as I can remember, every professional sport has a coach. Correct? it's not like the coach tells them "Ok here's the practice/session for today, now go do it on your own." LOL.
Why is this even being debated?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

WHY?

I think that there are a couple of key points being neglected in the thread. When I initially meet with a client I immediately explain that if they're looking for program design, that can be achieved within 3 sessions. This side of the game is pretty damn basic and Yes I agree with the points that Phil is making although what you're missing is the simple fact that even with a solid program most need the acountability, motivation and will not or can not duplicate the same intensity level on their own. We have to remember that not everybody has the mentality of an elite athlete. Even many elite athletes LOL. As far as I can remember, every professional sport has a coach. Correct? it's not like the coach tells them "Ok here's the practice/session for today, now go do it on your own." LOL.
Why is this even being debated?

I WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT $62 PER HOUR IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOME PEOPLE 4 TIMES PER WEEK FOR 1 MONTH. I REALIZE WHAT THE TRAINING BUSINESS IS ALL ABOUT HAVING BEEN IN IT FOR 25 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS AND I AM SURE YOU KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS. THESE SESSIONS TURN INTO BABYSITTING 99% OF THE TIME AND THESE PEOPLE LEARN NOTHING NEW, THEY JUST GET TOLD HOW MANY REPS TO DO OR SETS TO DO OR WHAT MACHINE TO GO TO. GO TO ANY GOLDS GYM OR LA FITNESS AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. IT IS ALL ABOUT HIGH PRESSURE SALES WITH UNQUALIFIED KIDS WHO GOT AN ACE CERTIFICATION 1 WEEK PRIOR AND ARE DECENT ENOUGH LOOKING TO COME OFF AS A "PROFESSIONAL" TO THESE UNSUSPECTING INDIVIDUALS. THERE IS VERY LITTLE LEARNING GOING ON AND NO TEACHING TOOLS TO TAKE WITH THEM TO BREAK PLATEAUS. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT RDs AND THEY STILL PUT THESE PEOPLE ON DIETS THAT THEY PULL OUT OF A CORPORATE CHEAT SHEET. IT IS ALL ABOUT GIVING THEM THEIR 1/2 HOUR AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THESE TRAINERS HAVE 20-30 CLIENTS PER DAY.....NO ONE IS SPECIAL, IT IS ALL ABOUT NUMBERS.

 

[HUTCH]

$1000 for 4 times a week is a fair price...BUT it depends what you are getting out of that training...For the reasons that you (stang) said, I think you are paying way too much...Pay for someone to spot you??...New Excercises??...If you consider doing one leg curls on a sponge disc a "new excercise" then maybe it would be worth it...I dont want to sound mean but i just dont want you to waste money...Find someone with experience and throw them some bucks to help you out with the diet for a few months and maybe write you a regimen to follow...Now if you are a fat out of shape person who just cannot get to the gym and need a trainer for accountability then $1000 bucks a month is prolly worth it...But again it all depends on what your needs are and the quality of the trainer...Please dont pay the A.C.E certified 18 year old at L.A Fitness though...If you find a guy like Rob, Dusty or for some diet coaching MainEvent then id pay the money...

 

[Rob Roy]

I WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT $62 PER HOUR IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOME PEOPLE 4 TIMES PER WEEK FOR 1 MONTH. I REALIZE WHAT THE TRAINING BUSINESS IS ALL ABOUT HAVING BEEN IN IT FOR 25 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS AND I AM SURE YOU KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS. THESE SESSIONS TURN INTO BABYSITTING 99% OF THE TIME AND THESE PEOPLE LEARN NOTHING NEW, THEY JUST GET TOLD HOW MANY REPS TO DO OR SETS TO DO OR WHAT MACHINE TO GO TO. GO TO ANY GOLDS GYM OR LA FITNESS AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. IT IS ALL ABOUT HIGH PRESSURE SALES WITH UNQUALIFIED KIDS WHO GOT AN ACE CERTIFICATION 1 WEEK PRIOR AND ARE DECENT ENOUGH LOOKING TO COME OFF AS A "PROFESSIONAL" TO THESE UNSUSPECTING INDIVIDUALS. THERE IS VERY LITTLE LEARNING GOING ON AND NO TEACHING TOOLS TO TAKE WITH THEM TO BREAK PLATEAUS. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT RDs AND THEY STILL PUT THESE PEOPLE ON DIETS THAT THEY PULL OUT OF A CORPORATE CHEAT SHEET. IT IS ALL ABOUT GIVING THEM THEIR 1/2 HOUR AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THESE TRAINERS HAVE 20-30 CLIENTS PER DAY.....NO ONE IS SPECIAL, IT IS ALL ABOUT NUMBERS.

Totally agree. I missed your point. My bad. I own a studio within a Gold's so I have the plessure of watching this shit on a daily basis. It's hard to bite my toung at times.

 

[BigEnough]

I WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT $62 PER HOUR IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOME PEOPLE 4 TIMES PER WEEK FOR 1 MONTH. I REALIZE WHAT THE TRAINING BUSINESS IS ALL ABOUT HAVING BEEN IN IT FOR 25 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS AND I AM SURE YOU KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS. THESE SESSIONS TURN INTO BABYSITTING 99% OF THE TIME AND THESE PEOPLE LEARN NOTHING NEW, THEY JUST GET TOLD HOW MANY REPS TO DO OR SETS TO DO OR WHAT MACHINE TO GO TO. GO TO ANY GOLDS GYM OR LA FITNESS AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. IT IS ALL ABOUT HIGH PRESSURE SALES WITH UNQUALIFIED KIDS WHO GOT AN ACE CERTIFICATION 1 WEEK PRIOR AND ARE DECENT ENOUGH LOOKING TO COME OFF AS A "PROFESSIONAL" TO THESE UNSUSPECTING INDIVIDUALS. THERE IS VERY LITTLE LEARNING GOING ON AND NO TEACHING TOOLS TO TAKE WITH THEM TO BREAK PLATEAUS. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT RDs AND THEY STILL PUT THESE PEOPLE ON DIETS THAT THEY PULL OUT OF A CORPORATE CHEAT SHEET. IT IS ALL ABOUT GIVING THEM THEIR 1/2 HOUR AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THESE TRAINERS HAVE 20-30 CLIENTS PER DAY.....NO ONE IS SPECIAL, IT IS ALL ABOUT NUMBERS.

Thats all I see at my golds, trainers sitting on there ass watching there client do the lift improperly.