I have used PGCL off and on, and one thing I found it most useful for is to reduce bloating while on a heavy AAS cycle along with a high calorie/ higher carb diet Don't get me wrong, I hate the fact it makes me shit my brains out for 30 minutes after I take it, but the next morning I ALWAYS look leaner in the face, and more vascular along my arms. Im not sure if it is as great as IP says it is (1000X more anabolic than IGF, more potent than DNP for fat loss, and better than EPO at creating more vascularity) but it sure works to reduce bloat. Just wanted to give my review on it.