PH question

[crose]

Ok i see where everyone agree's that oral only cycles such as dbol and anadrol are a waste and you will lose most if not all your gains. However i see people doing cycles of superdrol and Phera plex and raving about the results, so is it easier to keep the gains from this type of cycle say over a dbol anadro cycle ?

 

[skulbone]

Nope an oral is an oral.

 

[Tom]

water

not all orals are the same. some bloat you and the water weight is mistaken for muscle mass. when you stop those you lose most of the size you got from bloat. very dry, lean, long lasting gains can be obtained from t-bol and var and a few ph's as well.

 

[EasyEJL]

Nope an oral is an oral.

not even slightly true. Part of why dbol + abombs give you added size/mass is from water weight because they aromatize to estrogen. Superdrol + pheraplex don't aromatize, so a lot more of the weight gained is real mass.

 

[mikeyt869]

an oral is an oral but i think the gains from say turnibol or anavar is easier kept than superdrol only because from lab experaments on my part sdrol shuts you down hard and is harder to recover from than the other two i listed.

 

[skulbone]

not even slightly true. Part of why dbol + abombs give you added size/mass is from water weight because they aromatize to estrogen. Superdrol + pheraplex don't aromatize, so a lot more of the weight gained is real mass.

Your correct but where I was coming from was taking them w/o test. An oral only cycle is just not worth it, even/esp with PHs.

 

[Ashop]

Ok i see where everyone agree's that oral only cycles such as dbol and anadrol are a waste and you will lose most if not all your gains. However i see people doing cycles of superdrol and Phera plex and raving about the results, so is it easier to keep the gains from this type of cycle say over a dbol anadro cycle ?

Those people who say the lose most of there gains while coming off are not doing things corrrectly in my opnion. You may not keep 100% of your gains,,but you should be able to reatin a good percetage of it with proper diet,,training,,supplements,,and even PCT when you come off.

 

[Stewie Griffon]

Those people who say the lose most of there gains while coming off are not doing things corrrectly in my opnion. You may not keep 100% of your gains,,but you should be able to reatin a good percetage of it with proper diet,,training,,supplements,,and even PCT when you come off.

agree 100%

 

[RationalGaze]

Those people who say the lose most of there gains while coming off are not doing things corrrectly in my opnion. You may not keep 100% of your gains,,but you should be able to reatin a good percetage of it with proper diet,,training,,supplements,,and even PCT when you come off.

Exactly. My lab rat kept 90% of her gains on Var.