pregnancy Protocol ( what am i missing ) ?

punjabipunjab · Aug 20, 2020

Hey,
So I been off AAS Since October last year. Trying to have a baby. Long story short. I was taking Hcg and clomind untill may. Now i just started HCG/ HMG EOD. 1500hcg and 75iu Hmg .
so I went to my doctor for semen testing . Its still zero. Freaking urologist seems like he dont know wdf is he doing. So anyone with same experience in past. Can help me a little how long do i need to stay on HMG . cuz i just started in june. been completely off feel like shiit. oh and my blood work first few times my test level were in 70s . Now that i got it tested last week its in 300 range. I guess its about that time it can start producing . This is annoying . what are your thoughts and opinion

ranger54 · Aug 20, 2020

I did that HCG/HMG protocol plus a gram of test per week. The old lady was pregnant within 6 weeks.

best,

BL3

gotgame · Aug 20, 2020

What is your natural LH and FSH levels currently. Depending on what they are id consider taking clomid and see if they get to high normal or above normal range on clomid alone. Once LH and FSH are in normal range it will generaly take about 90 days to start producing mature sperm.

If you are set on saying screw your HPTA then yes 1500 iu HCG EOD and 75IU EOD will be enough and thats what i take. Reason i say set on saying screw your HPTA is because negative feedback from taking those could prevent the system from staying online. I have seen people overcome the negative feedback from HCG induced test and estrogen prouction by taking clomid and an AI along with it though so that is something you could consider.

I take HCG and HMG because i am on TRT so i dont have the luxury of endogenous LH/FSH production.

punjabipunjab · Aug 20, 2020

ranger54 said:
I did that HCG/HMG protocol plus a gram of test per week. The old lady was pregnant within 6 weeks.

best,

BL3

Were ur system shut down ?

punjabipunjab · Aug 20, 2020

gotgame said:
What is your natural LH and FSH levels currently. Depending on what they are id consider taking clomid and see if they get to high normal or above normal range on clomid alone. Once LH and FSH are in normal range it will generaly take about 90 days to start producing mature sperm.

If you are set on saying screw your HPTA then yes 1500 iu HCG EOD and 75IU EOD will be enough and thats what i take. Reason i say set on saying screw your HPTA is because negative feedback from taking those could prevent the system from staying online. I have seen people overcome the negative feedback from HCG induced test and estrogen prouction by taking clomid and an AI along with it though so that is something you could consider.

I take HCG and HMG because i am on TRT so i dont have the luxury of endogenous LH/FSH production.

Lh .03
Fsh 3.79
Estro 28.9

BillyBlanco · Aug 20, 2020

The HCG etc. is to get your system going again. The HCG could be shutting you down with the increased estrogen. I took clomid and HCG for a month and THEN got tested after I was off the HCG. I went from under a million to over 20 million. They can go into your balls and pull some out if they really have to. I don’t know how but they explained it as an option for non responders. I did this 9 years ago so protocols might have changed.
I’ve never done the HMG so I know nothing about it.

ranger54 · Aug 20, 2020

punjabipunjab said:
Were ur system shut down ?

Yes for several years. Justin Harris has a similar protocol that has worked for several clients.

best,

BL3

punjabipunjab · Aug 21, 2020

thanks boss

DrBeefcake777 · Aug 21, 2020

This is a great thread. Im about to do my last non trt run, then try to get my wonderful queen the baby we deserve. Im missing my left testicle from cancer and have used juice off and on so in 6-8 months Im gonna need you guys to help me out.

I fucking love kids and want a little baby girl so badly by 36-37. Im 34 1/2 now. Id be more crushed than her Im certain, bc being good with kids and loving them is something I know Im good at. Kids are magnetized to me as long as I can remember. Younger cousins, etc.....

Never thought I wanted a baby, but I finally have become an honest man and the time is soonish. But first I am going to get my ideal physique

dragonfire101 · Aug 25, 2020

gotgame said:
What is your natural LH and FSH levels currently. Depending on what they are id consider taking clomid and see if they get to high normal or above normal range on clomid alone. Once LH and FSH are in normal range it will generaly take about 90 days to start producing mature sperm.

If you are set on saying screw your HPTA then yes 1500 iu HCG EOD and 75IU EOD will be enough and thats what i take. Reason i say set on saying screw your HPTA is because negative feedback from taking those could prevent the system from staying online. I have seen people overcome the negative feedback from HCG induced test and estrogen prouction by taking clomid and an AI along with it though so that is something you could consider.

I take HCG and HMG because i am on TRT so i dont have the luxury of endogenous LH/FSH production.

So no need for hcg/ hmg together if not on trt? I've been taking both and started noticing storing fat in pubis area which is probably estrogen related.

gotgame · Aug 25, 2020

dragonfire101 said:
So no need for hcg/ hmg together if not on trt? I've been taking both and started noticing storing fat in pubis area which is probably estrogen related.

If not on TRT you should be making LH and FSH naturally and can increase it to high normal range if not beyond with clomid