PROLATIN OR GYNO

[RV63T]

AWHILE back i was on test 800mg wk and tren 75mg eod. i got a small lump on the side of my peck close to my nipp. i added aromasin 25mg a day and it seemed to get smaller but never went away. ive noticed it comeing back im on week 16 hgh 2ius a day.
in a search i found that gh can cause prolactin issues.
now im wondering did i actaully have prolactin issue with the tren.

is there away to tell if its prolctin or gyno. its not sore but been on nolva 20mg ed and aromasin 12.5 mg ed 2 weeks no change.
never had probs with just test deca or test eq.

 

[Mr.Meat]

Get some parmi from researchstop or another prolactin inhibitor such as Dostinex or Bromocrimtine mesylate.

I had lactating nipples for over a year (without any gyno thank god) till I tried parmi... Now no mre brownish man "milk" when i squeeze my nipples... LOL WAY TMI!

 

[Macro]

Get some parmi from researchstop or another prolactin inhibitor such as Dostinex or Bromocrimtine mesylate.

I had lactating nipples for over a year (without any gyno thank god) till I tried parmi... Now no mre brownish man "milk" when i squeeze my nipples... LOL WAY TMI!

strong perference for prami, benefits are considerable other than just prolactin suppression. Cabergoline is good but IME less effective (tabs only- liquid caber is junk), bromo is not all that effective and sides are frequent and a bit awful (not a fan).

Prolactin has been overlooked and dismissed by so many of the "talking heads" and yet time and time again they are proven wrong, as the number of successful regression (which relied on prolactin suppression) cases increases exponentially.

of course these same "geniuses" said that m1t, 1t, superdrol, etc could not cause gynecomastia. Obviously they were very wrong. they compounded their idiocy by reccomending nolva for PCT, sadly an aggravating factor where progesterone agonism/antagonism are factorial.

end of rant.....

 

[EDED]

Get some parmi from researchstop or another prolactin inhibitor such as Dostinex or Bromocrimtine mesylate.

I had lactating nipples for over a year (without any gyno thank god) till I tried parmi... Now no mre brownish man "milk" when i squeeze my nipples... LOL WAY TMI!

fucking sick!

what does it taste like ?

come on i don tknow you but im sure you are a sick bastard and tasted it once LOL

 

[PsyT]

man milk,...haha wtf EDED

 

[Macro]

fucking sick!

what does it taste like ?

come on i don tknow you but im sure you are a sick bastard and tasted it once LOL

one would guess like oily rotten milk

 

[EDED]

hahahahh yeah 'guess' sure Macro

sounds like a valid description from a personal experience.

 

[nickman1978]

Isn't it not a good idea to treat prolactin issues with nolva

I agree, get yourself some Prami

 

[EDED]

i don tknow, ive heard many times macro saying its bad due to upregulation of progesterone receptors? did i get that right? PR suppresses E, but makes ER more sensitive,,that i know of.

and from my personal experience last year, when i did deca/masteron/ i got gyno deca/masterone/test i still had gyno....i increased masteron and gyno got smaller but still stingy....all the while on nolva 20mg.

so i guess it does suck against progestins.

however if it sucks so bad, then it shouldnt be used for breast cancer right? think about that? alot of money resources went to developing breast tissue blockding drug,,,i dont astra zeneca want to put out garbage to cancer patients?

 

[FoodFreak]

Lower the tren dose, you don't need as much. try P-5-P. 100-150mg ED

 

[Macro]

i don tknow, ive heard many times macro saying its bad due to upregulation of progesterone receptors? did i get that right? PR suppresses E, but makes ER more sensitive,,that i know of.

and from my personal experience last year, when i did deca/masteron/ i got gyno deca/masterone/test i still had gyno....i increased masteron and gyno got smaller but still stingy....all the while on nolva 20mg.

so i guess it does suck against progestins.

however if it sucks so bad, then it shouldnt be used for breast cancer right? think about that? alot of money resources went to developing breast tissue blockding drug,,,i dont astra zeneca want to put out garbage to cancer patients?

tamoxifen is the oldest treatment for breast cancer, AI's have been significantly more effective in trials and treatment. Tamoxifen and clomiphene for that matter were developed over 30 years ago.

progesterone does modulate ER transcriptional activity. androgenic progestins (ALL strong androgens.. pretty much.. have some activity at PgR and most suppress progesterone synthesis) do not act the same way (they can act somewhat similar, but generally most of them have antagonst activity and suppress progesterone. Tam upregulates PGR, and this can also affect tam's action at ER (either via androgen binding or/also because of upregulation of the receptor in the face of either P4 (progeststerone) deprivation/supppression or even spikes of progesterone with the withdrawal of androgen.,,,

 

[Macro]

hahahahh yeah 'guess' sure Macro

sounds like a valid description from a personal experience.

NO. if such were to occur, and given protocols.. virtual impossibility... "that aint happenin... no way... no how"

 

[EDED]

tamoxifen is the oldest treatment for breast cancer, AI's have been significantly more effective in trials and treatment. Tamoxifen and clomiphene for that matter were developed over 30 years ago.

progesterone does modulate ER transcriptional activity. androgenic progestins (ALL strong androgens.. pretty much.. have some activity at PgR and most suppress progesterone synthesis) do not act the same way (they can act somewhat similar, but generally most of them have antagonst activity and suppress progesterone. Tam upregulates PGR, and this can also affect tam's action at ER (either via androgen binding or/also because of upregulation of the receptor in the face of either P4 (progeststerone) deprivation/supppression or even spikes of progesterone with the withdrawal of androgen.,,,

that makes sense, Pro opposes Estro so PGR gets blocked or PR is lowered, E and ER will freely roam and vice versa. yin yang like


yeah Mac, nip drip never happened to me, and it will NEVEr happen, lol