prop what the hell

monster74 · Apr 15, 2008

All i have ever heard is of its ability to supress water retention and really be a tool in cutting versus the standard 600 to 800 mg long chain ester dosages. I have done a 100mg eod and 50mg eod with ample water intake and i just blow up like a little fatty. It is driving me nuts. Ugh.....................................Started taking arimidex in the last couple days and no help................uhg.........took a nolvadex today so maybe this will help..........ugh.........eating like i afraid to eat because all this water weight...Have you ever had it do this to you. Have gotten stronger on just 50mgs every 3 days though. Block presses of 375 for 6 at the end of my workout with only wraps but damn i am a porker..........Just need someone to say its okay J. Little piggie........

TooPowerful4u · Apr 15, 2008

Some people bloat more than others. Iv seen someone bloat like heck up 30lbs on 250mg of test. I dont bloat no matter what i take, test, dbol...nothing. I just hold a tad bit of water and thats it. Genetic

Dezzy · Apr 15, 2008

Test makes me watery as hell. Even with arimidex. I'm thinking of trying propinate as well at a lower dose, like 250mg a week. But I feel you on the moon face...not a good look!

pesty4077 · Apr 15, 2008

monster74 said:
All i have ever heard is of its ability to supress water retention and really be a tool in cutting versus the standard 600 to 800 mg long chain ester dosages. I have done a 100mg eod and 50mg eod with ample water intake and i just blow up like a little fatty. It is driving me nuts. Ugh.....................................Started taking arimidex in the last couple days and no help................uhg.........took a nolvadex today so maybe this will help..........ugh.........eating like i afraid to eat because all this water weight...Have you ever had it do this to you. Have gotten stronger on just 50mgs every 3 days though. Block presses of 375 for 6 at the end of my workout with only wraps but damn i am a porker..........Just need someone to say its okay J. Little piggie........

I have the same problems with prop, but other than that good muscle gains. Arimidex needs to be taken every 4 hours, try aromasin.

RBB · Apr 15, 2008

i hate to say it, but...

test is test. do you really think the ester is going to have any effect on water retention if you're maintaining stable blood levels of the hormone? i don't know where that one got started.

mrsoul · Apr 15, 2008

RBB said:
test is test. do you really think the ester is going to have any effect on water retention if you're maintaining stable blood levels of the hormone? i don't know where that one got started.

uh, yeah i do think different esters cause more bloat than others.

james001 · Apr 15, 2008

mrsoul said:
uh, yeah i do think different esters cause more bloat than others.

Me too.. I get no bloat at all from prop.

RBB · Apr 15, 2008

james001 said:
Me too.. I get no bloat at all from prop.

everything is the same for me.

monster74 · Apr 15, 2008

steele said:
might have ALOT (if not everything) to do with your diet. what does your food intake look like? -STEELE

cant say that i am the cleanest eater at all. But i do watch what i eat 5 out of the week and on the other two it is only one cheat meal a day. And i am eating a winney tab everyday. I am very jealous of you non bloaters u suck.....moonfaces unite. I think more than anything i just need to bitch a little and i will hit the no carbs at all in the evening. I am a very endomorphic guy though. Easy muscle gains but with fat. I just started back in the gym around december and a week ago just started the small cycle. I have done big cycles years ago with every arrangement and i think the main difference is 3 years ago i had alot LBM and was still in my 20's. Blah blah blah blah and now i need to do the cardio but have been training with some powerlifters that press in the 600's with a shirt so i feel like i have to be johnny bravo just to keep up..blah blah blah......fucking peer pressure of having monster size friends... There is a vast of great people and knowledge on this board. It really amazes me that in the day i remember seeing 12 online viewing a forum and now you see 1200 online. Damn i am getting old

Ashop · Apr 16, 2008

monster74 said:
All i have ever heard is of its ability to supress water retention and really be a tool in cutting versus the standard 600 to 800 mg long chain ester dosages. I have done a 100mg eod and 50mg eod with ample water intake and i just blow up like a little fatty. It is driving me nuts. Ugh.....................................Started taking arimidex in the last couple days and no help................uhg.........took a nolvadex today so maybe this will help..........ugh.........eating like i afraid to eat because all this water weight...Have you ever had it do this to you. Have gotten stronger on just 50mgs every 3 days though. Block presses of 375 for 6 at the end of my workout with only wraps but damn i am a porker..........Just need someone to say its okay J. Little piggie........

are you eating clean???

jig · Apr 16, 2008

I really have to watch my sodium intake, shit, if I eat a lot of salt, sodium, etc, even without any test I still bloat up. I am on a really clean diet right now. I had a cheat day Sunday and it took me two days to get rid of the bloat. Diet is Key.

Jig

arthursaxon · Apr 16, 2008

CLEAN DIET

I've gotten bloated on 500mg of prop shoveling carbs and fast food down my throat, but stayed dry on more than double that dose controlling carbs and eating clean.

oldfella · Apr 16, 2008

Guys, I have said this before. THE BLOAT is from your diet and an electrolyte imbalance, plain and simple!!! Cut back on sodium intake and start to pay attention to potassium, calcium, magnesium. RBB is correct, test is test it has nothing to do with the kind of water retention you are talking about, this is diet related.

Cut out all sources of saturated fats and high sodium foods. Get the good fats into your diet, clean carbs and good high quality protein. You need to get your electrolytes back in balance.

Fa Seeshus · Apr 16, 2008

aromasin or letro works better on the bloat. DIM (available at vit shoppe) at 3-6 tabs a day will help some to.

i have to completely eliminate starchy carbs when on test. this fixes much of the bloat.

OuchThatHurts · Apr 16, 2008

I've heard this about suspension but not propionate. Propionate, enanthate, cypionate, it's all the same drug! There's no difference. But even propionate is esterified, unlike suspension. But even suspension is still test but it spikes and clears much quicker. But your estrogen has to be in check too. Hasn't your girl ever tell you she's bloated? Get your estrogen down, get your salt down and eat a clean diet and it should take care of itself.

But you're still going to wake up all moon-faced once in a while. I'd get used to that.

monster74 · Apr 17, 2008

alin it is so good to hear from you. My homie from away. Dude i started watching my salt and yes it is my diet. I am the same way if i eat Mexican as a cheat meal i blow up like balloons at helium factory. i have peed myself crazy but in just the last few days i have gotten it in check with ndex and watching what i am putting in my mouth. I own a restaurant and that is hard and even harder saying no to the late night beers with my crew but i am finding it rewarding getting back in the swing of things. I was lost awhile and i forgot the damn discipline it takes just to be healthy much less a bb. It makes it so much easier though when u get involved with others and i find myself excited about reading the posts when i come home. Thanks everyone