Pulse rate during intense bulker WO and during cutting on low carb

[sizeon]

was wondering if it mattered much of what your pulse is reading after an intense superset after a bulking wo, and what is should be during a low carb cutting regime and if the lifting should be supersets or strength sets and for how long during a wo and how often during the week, to prevent muscle and burn fat, and the pulse during your cardio session during the low carb regime, my pulse after a superset is close to 200, and during cardio around 150

 

[oldfella]

was wondering if it mattered much of what your pulse is reading after an intense superset after a bulking wo, and what is should be during a low carb cutting regime and if the lifting should be supersets or strength sets and for how long during a wo and how often during the week, to prevent muscle and burn fat, and the pulse during your cardio session during the low carb regime, my pulse after a superset is close to 200, and during cardio around 150

Bro? How many contradictions can you fit into one post? Supersetting for a bulking workout? Low carbs for cutting? Pulse rates while weight training?

Supersetting is not usually part of a bulking (as you call it) workout. But your questions are borderline ridiculous unless you put some logic to what you are saying!!

Sorry but your post really does not make any sense!

 

[sizeon]

Bro? How many contradictions can you fit into one post? Supersetting for a bulking workout? Low carbs for cutting? Pulse rates while weight training?

Supersetting is not usually part of a bulking (as you call it) workout. But your questions are borderline ridiculous unless you put some logic to what you are saying!!

Sorry but your post really does not make any sense!

well ive never heard anybody say superseting is not part of a bulker if your not supersetiing you might as wel be aiming more for strength vs size, so dont know what your doing or you dont know what supersetting is, you must work intense to pump the muscle

 

[oldfella]

well ive never heard anybody say superseting is not part of a bulker if your not supersetiing you might as wel be aiming more for strength vs size, so dont know what your doing or you dont know what supersetting is, you must work intense to pump the muscle

Please explain how not supersetting is aiming for strength and not size? and yes I am more than well versed on too many aspects of training proceedures and principles. So I know exactly what supersetting is and what it is used for. Your very post leads me to believe you are not completely sure of how to add real mass and have been reading too many glossy mags!

Also please explain how not getting stronger will lead to more or added muslce mass?
More mass has been packed on by more people by using a single compound movement than all the supersetting in history, but hey, What would I know

 

[VTliftVT]

well ive never heard anybody say superseting is not part of a bulker if your not supersetiing you might as wel be aiming more for strength vs size, so dont know what your doing or you dont know what supersetting is, you must work intense to pump the muscle

Even more so than what old fella said....PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE find me something showing that a muscle pump in itself = putting on mass....

 

[oldfella]

You know it still surprises me why somany guys try to make this shit out to be rocket science with all this talk of bulking, cutting, meal timing and windows of opportunity, pulse rates while training and how high it should be after a superset, how many super duper complicted iso movements I need to get big.

It s very fucking simple..........lift smart, lift heavy, lift intensy and get the fuck out of the gym. Keep it basic and brief. Go and eat as soon as you feel like it and then rest. And to think I went and got a PHd to be able to say that!!! LMAO!!!

 

[sizeon]

You know it still surprises me why somany guys try to make this shit out to be rocket science with all this talk of bulking, cutting, meal timing and windows of opportunity, pulse rates while training and how high it should be after a superset, how many super duper complicted iso movements I need to get big.

It s very fucking simple..........lift smart, lift heavy, lift intensy and get the fuck out of the gym. Keep it basic and brief. Go and eat as soon as you feel like it and then rest. And to think I went and got a PHd to be able to say that!!! LMAO!!!

so what is your doctorates degree in so maybe ill shut up first, if its a doctorates in exercise or nutrtion it realy aint sayin much, its bio chem or medicine then your the man , and anything else it plays no role, and ya im saying that supersetting is for growth and if your not lifting intense enough you should just take even more time in between sets and aim for strength and never said that cant add growth but it wont as much

 

[oldfella]

so what is your doctorates degree in so maybe ill shut up first, if its a doctorates in exercise or nutrtion it realy aint sayin much, its bio chem or medicine then your the man , and anything else it plays no role, and ya im saying that supersetting is for growth and if your not lifting intense enough you should just take even more time in between sets and aim for strength and never said that cant add growth but it wont as much

The PHd thing is a joke! I do not have a docterate in anything. What I do have is 36 years worth of training and nutrition experience. Which in my humble opinion is worth far more than a PHd in our game. But I am not going to waste my time trying to explain all this. Just keep supersetting and doing your thing. And who said anything about taking more time between sets? But anyway just wear your heart rate monitor and see where your heart rate is after your super sets while I grab another heavy set of my one movement and move on to the next. My training will be done while you are resetting your heart rate for another set!

 

[alecaf]

ok ill chime in here and try to offer some helpful advice. Hany Rambod being the revolutionary that he is says that the best thing to do for growth is to do your heavy sets followed by a extreme pumping exercise. This is done like this: 7 sets of 12 reps with 30 secs rest in between, the weight should be a weight which you would go to failure at 15-20. The theory behind this is that extreme amounts of blood will be pumped into the muscle sending nutrients to it while also stretching the muscle fascia, in Haney rambod's opinion this is like a weak synthol. People have long been doing this without knowing it, with exercises such as 21's, German Volume Training, Superseting and pretty much any pumping exercise. FST7, which is Hany Rambod's training method, only difference is that the training itself is actually based on this theory. The pump feels good, but since HIT training methods became popular it has been believed that the pump does nothing for growth, but Hany's theory disproofs it. Just theory, not a fact.

So if you believe Hany Rambod, Phil Heath's and now Jay Cutler's treainer, continue to superset on your bulks as it will send nutrients and stretch the muscle fascia thus making your muscles bigger and rounder, but do this only after doing your compoun heavy sets.

 

[halflife]

ok ill chime in here and try to offer some helpful advice. Hany Rambod being the revolutionary that he is says that the best thing to do for growth is to do your heavy sets followed by a extreme pumping exercise. This is done like this: 7 sets of 12 reps with 30 secs rest in between, the weight should be a weight which you would go to failure at 15-20. The theory behind this is that extreme amounts of blood will be pumped into the muscle sending nutrients to it while also stretching the muscle fascia, in Haney rambod's opinion this is like a weak synthol. People have long been doing this without knowing it, with exercises such as 21's, German Volume Training, Superseting and pretty much any pumping exercise. FST7, which is Hany Rambod's training method, only difference is that the training itself is actually based on this theory. The pump feels good, but since HIT training methods became popular it has been believed that the pump does nothing for growth, but Hany's theory disproofs it. Just theory, not a fact.

So if you believe Hany Rambod, Phil Heath's and now Jay Cutler's treainer, continue to superset on your bulks as it will send nutrients and stretch the muscle fascia thus making your muscles bigger and rounder, but do this only after doing your compoun heavy sets.

Sorry bro but FST-7 is not supersetting. In SS the only time inbetween the 2 lifts is time to travel from one to the other FST-7 is a set 30 sec. And SS does increase blood flow but also can be used as pre-exaustion, antagonistic work, upper body/lower body, in-set super set... they all have their advantages.

BUT I agree with Oldfella, like usual, supersetting in general for most people is not the best way to add mass. I totally don't think SS and bulking are contradictions - but SS is not best.

 

[Phidias]

a bulking wo

Sorry but what's a bulking workout? Or a cutting wo for that matter?

You should always be aiming to gain muscle, always, all year long... why would you train any different? What makes a muscle grow is also the best way to hold onto it while dieting down...

Training doesn't burn fat, diet does.

 

[machola]

You know it still surprises me why somany guys try to make this shit out to be rocket science with all this talk of bulking, cutting, meal timing and windows of opportunity, pulse rates while training and how high it should be after a superset, how many super duper complicted iso movements I need to get big.

It s very fucking simple..........lift smart, lift heavy, lift intensy and get the fuck out of the gym. Keep it basic and brief. Go and eat as soon as you feel like it and then rest. And to think I went and got a PHd to be able to say that!!! LMAO!!!

excellent post!

 

[Dad]

Sorry but what's a bulking workout? Or a cutting wo for that matter?

You should always be aiming to gain muscle, always, all year long... why would you train any different? What makes a muscle grow is also the best way to hold onto it while dieting down...

Training doesn't burn fat, diet does.

This should be a Sticky - great post, Phidias!

I've always thought this "bulker" and "cutter" nonsense to be just that - nonsense.

 

[alecaf]

Sorry bro but FST-7 is not supersetting. In SS the only time inbetween the 2 lifts is time to travel from one to the other FST-7 is a set 30 sec. And SS does increase blood flow but also can be used as pre-exaustion, antagonistic work, upper body/lower body, in-set super set... they all have their advantages.

BUT I agree with Oldfella, like usual, supersetting in general for most people is not the best way to add mass. I totally don't think SS and bulking are contradictions - but SS is not best.

When i've supper seted ifeel like the muscle is going to explode its so pumped with blood, the fst7 idea is that to fill the muscle with blood to make tha fascia stretch. Anyway, my point is that his question is not as stupid. As the people who answered it made it sound.

 

[sizeon]

When i've supper seted ifeel like the muscle is going to explode its so pumped with blood, the fst7 idea is that to fill the muscle with blood to make tha fascia stretch. Anyway, my point is that his question is not as stupid. As the people who answered it made it sound.

thankyou bro