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Question on thyroid labs

artemis

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Hi Guys.

I got a question regarding my TSH from my labs done on Monday.

To preface, I am using 100mcg t4 at night and 24mcg t3 in the am. Using 6ius of blacktops and taking 210mg of cyp per week.

results:

TSH .17
T4 9.0
free T4 1.4
free T3 3.9
Reverse T3 25

the 2 questions I have are is speculation why TSH is so low and having never done a RT3 test, how bad is the 25 and what should I look at changing in regards to these?
 
Found this article interesting

Reverse T3: What You Need To Know About It
Reverse T3 is manufactured from thyroxine (T4), and its role is to block the action of T3. In past posts I’ve discussed how stress affects the adrenal glands, as when someone deals with any type of stress the adrenal glands will produce cortisol. But when someone is dealing with chronic stress on a frequent basis, then the adrenals will initially produce an excess amount of cortisol. The cortisol in turn will inhibit the conversion of T4 to T3. So you definitely don’t want the reverse T3 to be too high.

Because it blocks the conversion of T4 to T3, a high reverse T3 is common in people with hypothyroidism and Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis, although many people with hyperthyroidism and Graves’ Disease will have elevated RT3 levels as well. In either condition it is of course common for the patient to deal with chronic stress on a frequent basis, which in turn can cause inhibition of the conversion of T4 to T3 and lead to an increase in RT3.

How Can One Detect This Problem?

Not all doctors will recommend the reverse T3 test when ordering your labs, and so you might need to look at other values. For example, if your free T4 is within normal range and the free T3 is low, then this can be an indicator of a high RT3. But of course the best method is to actually order the RT3 blood test. Sometimes the Reverse T3 won’t be high, but instead there will be a problem with the ratio between RT3 and the free T3.

The Medical Solution For High RT3 Levels

For someone who has abnormal RT3 levels, the medical solution will simply be to address the thyroid imbalance. So for example, if one has hypothyroidism, then the medical doctor will usually just prescribe synthetic thyroid hormone. If a person with hyperthyroidism or Graves’ Disease happens to have a high RT3, then the medical protocol will remain the same, which means giving the person antithyroid medication or recommending radioactive iodine.

For those medical doctors who do pay attention to the reverse T3, they will usually either decrease the dosage of T4, and/or recommend for the patient to take T3. Cytomel is a popular brand which is given, and this can sometimes help to manage the symptoms of someone with a high reverse T3 and/or an abnormal ratio between RT3 and free T3.

Correcting The Underlying Cause

Of course just giving someone Cytomel won’t cure the cause of the problem, which is why one needs to address the actual cause. If compromised adrenals are the problem, then one needs to address the adrenal gland issue. Obviously one first needs to determine whether someone has problems with their adrenal glands, which is where the Adrenal Stress Index test comes into play. I have discussed this test in other articles and posts, so I won’t get into detail here about adrenal testing. But I will remind you that it’s important not to rely on the blood tests with regards to the cortisol levels, not only because they measure the bound form of the hormone, but also because a single sample isn’t sufficient when determining the health of the adrenal glands.

Anyway, compromised adrenal glands isn’t the only factor which can lead to problems with the Reverse T3. If you read the book “Stop The Thyroid Madness” (or visit their website at www.StopTheThyroidMadness.com), you’ll notice that one of the things that is discussed is how low iron levels can lead to problems with the RT3 levels. As a result, in addition to looking at the adrenal glands, one needs to look at the iron levels. I think this is a good idea regardless of whether someone has a high Reverse T3, as many people with thyroid conditions have problems with their adrenals and/or have an iron deficiency.

Kent Holtorf wrote an article which discussed how chronic dieting can lead to an increase in the RT3 levels, and chronic illnesses such as diabetes, chronic fatigue syndrome, and fibromyalgia can lead to high levels as well. If this is the case then it shouldn’t be a surprise that conditions such as Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and Graves’ Disease can also lead to this problem. With regards to dieting, the Reverse T3 has the opposite effect of free T3, which is to slow down the metabolism, as it does this in order to help gain weight.
 
Hi Guys.

I got a question regarding my TSH from my labs done on Monday.

To preface, I am using 100mcg t4 at night and 24mcg t3 in the am. Using 6ius of blacktops and taking 210mg of cyp per week.

results:

TSH .17
T4 9.0
free T4 1.4
free T3 3.9
Reverse T3 25

the 2 questions I have are is speculation why TSH is so low and having never done a RT3 test, how bad is the 25 and what should I look at changing in regards to these?

The first question you should be asking is, am I seeing hypothyroid symptoms? I highly doubt it with free t3 in the higher range. Your thyroid panel is abnormal from AAS and endogenous thyroid hormones, your not the same as the population they used for the reference range.
 

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