Mike Arnold
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Do you guys remember the old B.S. info being circulated back in the day, in which we were told that DAC was a horrible choice for men because it lacked the "pulse"?
The theory was that DAC was less effective for growth than a ModGRF1-29 + GHRP combo specifically because it lacked this "pulse", which was supposedly very important for being able to take advantage of GH's growth promoting effects. There was an entire scientific explanation attached to this recommendation...and almost everyone believed it. In fact, pretty much everyone who used GH peptides around this time period avoided using DAC for this very reason.
This just goes to show how important "REAL-WORLD" experience is when it comes to bodybuilding drugs. Of course, I am not undermining the value of science/medicine--not at all, as it plays an essential role--but there have been way too many times where these purely science/medicine-minded people have been wrong and led many astray with faulty recommendations.
I remember several of us disputing the validity of the above recommendation. It made absolutely no sense to me because 1,000's of real-world experiences had already proven that this pulse doesn't mean jack-shit when looking at the bigger picture. For many years it was standard practice to inject exo. GH 2X/day. With this dosing pattern GH levels remained elevated and fairly stable all day long, eliminating any sort of pulse, yet many bodybuilders claimed to experience their best-ever results in terms of both fat-loss and growth with this method of administration.
Regardless of whether exo. GH was injected once, twice, or three times daily, bodybuilders learned very quickly that the most important factors in determining effectiveness were overall dosage and duration of use. The bottom line is that the more GH we use and the longer we use it for, the better our results will be, regardless of dosing patterns.
Even with this knowledge widely available, many bodybuilders were somehow duped into believing that the constantly elevated GH levels provided by DAC were somehow going to "diminish" our results.
The majority believed they would get better results by using GHRP-2 and ModGRF-129 @ 100 mcg each, 3X/day....then they would using ANY dose of DAC with a somatostatin inhibitor. Because of this, the large majority used the GHRP-2 & mod protocol, but it didn't take long to realize that this program couldn't provide the results of even moderate exo. GH use, let alone high dose use.
Dissatisfaction set in and bodybuilders began looking for other, more effective ways to use GH peptides. It took many years to undo the "damage" that those previous recommendations did to the belief system of the bodybuilding community, until we finally ended up back at square one--DAC!
Now, at this now point I still do believe that short-acting GH peptides are still feasible options, but not when used in the traditional fashion. DAC, along with a somatostatin inhibitor, is far more effective than traditional GH peptide programs.
The theory was that DAC was less effective for growth than a ModGRF1-29 + GHRP combo specifically because it lacked this "pulse", which was supposedly very important for being able to take advantage of GH's growth promoting effects. There was an entire scientific explanation attached to this recommendation...and almost everyone believed it. In fact, pretty much everyone who used GH peptides around this time period avoided using DAC for this very reason.
This just goes to show how important "REAL-WORLD" experience is when it comes to bodybuilding drugs. Of course, I am not undermining the value of science/medicine--not at all, as it plays an essential role--but there have been way too many times where these purely science/medicine-minded people have been wrong and led many astray with faulty recommendations.
I remember several of us disputing the validity of the above recommendation. It made absolutely no sense to me because 1,000's of real-world experiences had already proven that this pulse doesn't mean jack-shit when looking at the bigger picture. For many years it was standard practice to inject exo. GH 2X/day. With this dosing pattern GH levels remained elevated and fairly stable all day long, eliminating any sort of pulse, yet many bodybuilders claimed to experience their best-ever results in terms of both fat-loss and growth with this method of administration.
Regardless of whether exo. GH was injected once, twice, or three times daily, bodybuilders learned very quickly that the most important factors in determining effectiveness were overall dosage and duration of use. The bottom line is that the more GH we use and the longer we use it for, the better our results will be, regardless of dosing patterns.
Even with this knowledge widely available, many bodybuilders were somehow duped into believing that the constantly elevated GH levels provided by DAC were somehow going to "diminish" our results.
The majority believed they would get better results by using GHRP-2 and ModGRF-129 @ 100 mcg each, 3X/day....then they would using ANY dose of DAC with a somatostatin inhibitor. Because of this, the large majority used the GHRP-2 & mod protocol, but it didn't take long to realize that this program couldn't provide the results of even moderate exo. GH use, let alone high dose use.
Dissatisfaction set in and bodybuilders began looking for other, more effective ways to use GH peptides. It took many years to undo the "damage" that those previous recommendations did to the belief system of the bodybuilding community, until we finally ended up back at square one--DAC!
Now, at this now point I still do believe that short-acting GH peptides are still feasible options, but not when used in the traditional fashion. DAC, along with a somatostatin inhibitor, is far more effective than traditional GH peptide programs.