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If one were to do his own self medicated TRT program for low test levels (let's say anywhere between 230 and 500 ng/dL), how would this look? Let's say someone couldn't or didn't want to do injections for various reasons. Let's also say someone would be getting blood work taken every 5 weeks to check on test, estrogen, liver values, etc.). Also, lets say this person plans on taking this regimen for the rest of his life (no breaks or cycles). Here it is:
1. Andriol (40 mg tablets) 160-240 mg daily (start at 160 mg and if blood work or symptoms don't show much improvement bump up to 200 mg than possibly 240 mg) spread out over the course of the day (breakfast, lunch, dinner, bedtime) taken with food.
OR
Methyltestsoterone (10 mg tablets) 40-50 mg daily (start at 40 mg and if blood work or symptoms don't show much improvement bump up to 50 mg) taken all in one dosage at breakfast with food.
2. Clomid 50 mg every other day taken in the morning with food.
3. Nolvadex 20 mg every day taken in the morning with food. If estrogen symptoms start to appear, start taking 40 mg to symptoms disappear and than resume taking 20 mg.
A few questions:
1. Let's say someone were to do this strictly to get his testosterone back to normal levels for his age where he could start having full solid erections again, stop feeling depressed, stop feeling lethargic, possibly lose a little bit of his gut (with weight training and cardio ofcourse), build a little bit of lean muscle, etc. Basically what I'm asking is, are these dosages (starting with the minimum and POSSIBLY increasing the dosages (based on blood work and symptoms) good for a TRT program? I'm not talking about a cycle where someone wants to put on 30 lbs. of solid muscle, I'm strictly talking about a TRT regimen.
2. For this situation what would be better to take, Andriol or Methyltestsosterone? I have done extensive reaserch and talked to various people, I just want to see what you fellas think.
3. Do you guys think this regimen would cause estrogen symptoms (gyno, bloating, etc.)? With the addition of clomid, is it even necessary to include Nolvadex? Obviously you would want it on hand to combat estrogen symptoms if they appeared, but is it necessary to take it every day?
4. If someone plans on taking this regimen the rest of life, will it kill their liver? Or are the dosages so mild where that won't be a problem? Would Milk Thistle or another OTC product help with the liver or is that not necessary? As far as I understand it Andriol goes through the lymphatic system as opposed to Methyltestosterone which goes through the liver. What do you guys think?
5. Would this regimen shrink your testicles? I would think the addition of Clomid every other day would prevent this. What do you guys think?
6. Would this regimen improve the solidness of erections and increase sex drive? What about aggressiveness?
7. If one were to take this regimen, they basically would never be able to get an erection first thing in the morning again. Is this true?
What do you guys think?
1. Andriol (40 mg tablets) 160-240 mg daily (start at 160 mg and if blood work or symptoms don't show much improvement bump up to 200 mg than possibly 240 mg) spread out over the course of the day (breakfast, lunch, dinner, bedtime) taken with food.
OR
Methyltestsoterone (10 mg tablets) 40-50 mg daily (start at 40 mg and if blood work or symptoms don't show much improvement bump up to 50 mg) taken all in one dosage at breakfast with food.
2. Clomid 50 mg every other day taken in the morning with food.
3. Nolvadex 20 mg every day taken in the morning with food. If estrogen symptoms start to appear, start taking 40 mg to symptoms disappear and than resume taking 20 mg.
A few questions:
1. Let's say someone were to do this strictly to get his testosterone back to normal levels for his age where he could start having full solid erections again, stop feeling depressed, stop feeling lethargic, possibly lose a little bit of his gut (with weight training and cardio ofcourse), build a little bit of lean muscle, etc. Basically what I'm asking is, are these dosages (starting with the minimum and POSSIBLY increasing the dosages (based on blood work and symptoms) good for a TRT program? I'm not talking about a cycle where someone wants to put on 30 lbs. of solid muscle, I'm strictly talking about a TRT regimen.
2. For this situation what would be better to take, Andriol or Methyltestsosterone? I have done extensive reaserch and talked to various people, I just want to see what you fellas think.
3. Do you guys think this regimen would cause estrogen symptoms (gyno, bloating, etc.)? With the addition of clomid, is it even necessary to include Nolvadex? Obviously you would want it on hand to combat estrogen symptoms if they appeared, but is it necessary to take it every day?
4. If someone plans on taking this regimen the rest of life, will it kill their liver? Or are the dosages so mild where that won't be a problem? Would Milk Thistle or another OTC product help with the liver or is that not necessary? As far as I understand it Andriol goes through the lymphatic system as opposed to Methyltestosterone which goes through the liver. What do you guys think?
5. Would this regimen shrink your testicles? I would think the addition of Clomid every other day would prevent this. What do you guys think?
6. Would this regimen improve the solidness of erections and increase sex drive? What about aggressiveness?
7. If one were to take this regimen, they basically would never be able to get an erection first thing in the morning again. Is this true?
What do you guys think?
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