SEO's and OIL-BASED TEST SUSPENSION

[headmuscle]

I've been wondering, consider the objective of Site Enhancing Oils or SEO's (Syntherol, etc.) is to enlarge a given muscle, not that I would ever even consider thinking about the use of such a thing. Me, Never!

As most of you know, in order to accomplish this one must pin the muscle w/ a SEO on daily basis, following a specific regimen (with gradually increasing dosages over the course of usually for 1 month). The aim is to stretch the fascia that ensheaves the muscle (which can be a major limiting factor for growth in many muscles, most noteably calves.) Once the fascia is stretched with the SEO, the cells within the muscle now have room to grow and expand. And the manufacturer's claim that if the SEO administration regimen is followed up a proper anabolic environment (nutrition, gear, training, etc.) the muscle cells should fill up the new space within inflated muscle as the SEO dissipates over time.

My thinking is this - One of the few kinds of aas that should honestly produce site enhancement growth is pure testosterone, that is, in the form of test suspension. Esters of testosterone, whether it be prop, enan, cyp, et al., would NOT be very effective b/c the testosterone in a testosterone ester is completely inert until the ester group is cleaved off of it by an esterase enzyme. And with only 2% of the body's esterase is in muscle and the other 98% is in the blood most of the testosterone ester is diffused into the and swept away by the bloodstream b4 the esterase does it's thing. Hence, the newly emancipated testosterone molecule is free to attach itself to a receptor someplace else in the body.

THEREFORE (I'm getting to my point finally), why not use test suspension injected into the newly inflated muscle to induce hypertrophy of the muscle cells. But regular water based suspension would be a poor choice in an hydrophobic oil-filled environment as it would not mix well. HOWEVER, OIL-based test suspension should be the PERFECT choice of gear as a follow up to a SEO regimen to create solid muscle tissue. This test suspension should easily mix in the oil that bathes and surrounds each cell in the the muscle and these muscles be the first to be exposed to the pure hypertrophy-inducing test which will attach itself to their androgen receptors.

In fact, I would hypothesize that alternating a month of SEO administration with a month or two or more of oil-based test suspension (along with a tad of IGF administration for hyperplasia for maximum effect) should produce the most dramatic and ever-increasing size to a given muscle, a muscle composed of true, hard contractile tissue, in the fastest time possible.

So, what are your thoughts, my brothers, on my hypothesis? Or am I just full of shit.:star-;ars

headmuscle aka trapmeat (on other boards)

 

[Big A]

The theory is sound, the only problem I could see is the test sups getting mixed up with the SEO and as such the SEO interfering with absorbtion of the suspension.
I don't see enough negatives though not to experiment and find out.

 

[Big Ian]

I have actually experimented with this very thing recently in my delts but had to stop after 10 days due to a shoulder injury. The injury is pretty much healed now so will most likely resume the experiment in the near future.

 

[headmuscle]

The theory is sound, the only problem I could see is the test sups getting mixed up with the SEO and as such the SEO interfering with absorbtion of the suspension.
I don't see enough negatives though not to experiment and find out.

But that's my point, Big A. I want the test to stay in the SEO so it stays in the muscle for as long as possible. It then has only two ways to exit, both of which includes the diffusion of the test across a membrane. Either the test molecules that are floating in the SEO will eventually come in contact with a muscle cell and attach to its androgen receptors or it will come in contact with a capillary and diffuse thru its walls and get swept away by the blood stream. It could take a day, or two or more for a test molecule to make it's way to one of these two exit/disposal points, but that's OK. I just think that the chance that a test molecule that is dissolved in the SEO has a much better chance of saturating the receptors of the cells in that muscle (and hence superior site enhancement) then if water-based test suspension was injected into a very localized area of the muscle in which so much of it is wisked away by the blood in a few hours time.

Keep in mind, a muscle that just went thru the 30-day SEO regimen as detailed here on a thread on this board will be inflated thru out with lots of oil, with most if not all the muscle bundles "swimming" in oil, oil that can be infiltrated with the injection of oil-based test susp followed by deep massaging to completely mix the test thruout the muscle.

 

[headmuscle]

Thanks for the Reply

I have actually experimented with this very thing recently in my delts but had to stop after 10 days due to a shoulder injury. The injury is pretty much healed now so will most likely resume the experiment in the near future.

Hey Big Ian!

So great minds think alike!

Please do keep me informed of your progress with this method I'm very interested.

I'm going to start it in 2 weeks, btw.

 

[K1]

I've been wondering, consider the objective of Site Enhancing Oils or SEO's (Syntherol, etc.) is to enlarge a given muscle, not that I would ever even consider thinking about the use of such a thing. Me, Never!

As most of you know, in order to accomplish this one must pin the muscle w/ a SEO on daily basis, following a specific regimen (with gradually increasing dosages over the course of usually for 1 month). The aim is to stretch the fascia that ensheaves the muscle (which can be a major limiting factor for growth in many muscles, most noteably calves.) Once the fascia is stretched with the SEO, the cells within the muscle now have room to grow and expand. And the manufacturer's claim that if the SEO administration regimen is followed up a proper anabolic environment (nutrition, gear, training, etc.) the muscle cells should fill up the new space within inflated muscle as the SEO dissipates over time.

My thinking is this - One of the few kinds of aas that should honestly produce site enhancement growth is pure testosterone, that is, in the form of test suspension. Esters of testosterone, whether it be prop, enan, cyp, et al., would NOT be very effective b/c the testosterone in a testosterone ester is completely inert until the ester group is cleaved off of it by an esterase enzyme. And with only 2% of the body's esterase is in muscle and the other 98% is in the blood most of the testosterone ester is diffused into the and swept away by the bloodstream b4 the esterase does it's thing. Hence, the newly emancipated testosterone molecule is free to attach itself to a receptor someplace else in the body.

THEREFORE (I'm getting to my point finally), why not use test suspension injected into the newly inflated muscle to induce hypertrophy of the muscle cells. But regular water based suspension would be a poor choice in an hydrophobic oil-filled environment as it would not mix well. HOWEVER, OIL-based test suspension should be the PERFECT choice of gear as a follow up to a SEO regimen to create solid muscle tissue. This test suspension should easily mix in the oil that bathes and surrounds each cell in the the muscle and these muscles be the first to be exposed to the pure hypertrophy-inducing test which will attach itself to their androgen receptors.

In fact, I would hypothesize that alternating a month of SEO administration with a month or two or more of oil-based test suspension (along with a tad of IGF administration for hyperplasia for maximum effect) should produce the most dramatic and ever-increasing size to a given muscle, a muscle composed of true, hard contractile tissue, in the fastest time possible.

So, what are your thoughts, my brothers, on my hypothesis? Or am I just full of shit.:star-;ars

headmuscle aka trapmeat (on other boards)

Sounds like a nice idea, keep us posted on your results.........

 

[Big A]

But that's my point, Big A. I want the test to stay in the SEO so it stays in the muscle for as long as possible. It then has only two ways to exit, both of which includes the diffusion of the test across a membrane. Either the test molecules that are floating in the SEO will eventually come in contact with a muscle cell and attach to its androgen receptors or it will come in contact with a capillary and diffuse thru its walls and get swept away by the blood stream. It could take a day, or two or more for a test molecule to make it's way to one of these two exit/disposal points, but that's OK. I just think that the chance that a test molecule that is dissolved in the SEO has a much better chance of saturating the receptors of the cells in that muscle (and hence superior site enhancement) then if water-based test suspension was injected into a very localized area of the muscle in which so much of it is wisked away by the blood in a few hours time.

Keep in mind, a muscle that just went thru the 30-day SEO regimen as detailed here on a thread on this board will be inflated thru out with lots of oil, with most if not all the muscle bundles "swimming" in oil, oil that can be infiltrated with the injection of oil-based test susp followed by deep massaging to completely mix the test thruout the muscle.

Now I see what you are saying. It's a very good idea. Keep us updated on progress.

 

[headmuscle]

Now I see what you are saying. It's a very good idea. Keep us updated on progress.

Thank you for the compliment, Big A - I greatly respect your opinion.

I should add that now that some supplier have OIL-based Winnie, that too could be used for site enhancement.

Right now I'm pinning both heads of my bis and lateral delts - this is my first time using a SEO but Syntherol is a very smooth product to use. I should be done with the 30-day regimen by around Dec 1 at which time I will start the oil-based test susp administration.


I and I hope Big Ian will keep u posted on our results.

 

[Big Ian]

Hi Headmuscle,

Great minds indeed

Good luck with your experiment bro, I've decided to lay off gear until probably february at least now due to personal reasons so you will most likely be the first to have some definitive idea of the effectiveness of it. But I will most certainly post my results once I do mine.