TNE water based vs oil based

[hanquin]

I've never used TNE before but am looking to try it out. Only thing I'm wondering what the difference is between the water based vs oil. Aside from the possibility of water based being grainy, having to sake it up and the pip associated with it ate there any added benefits to either or? Also wondering if water based needs refrigeration. Thanks

 

[luki7788]

In theory there is no difference in practice I feel that the water version works faster and for a shorter time - it also seems to me that I do not keep any additional water under the skin when using the water base but maybe it is just an illusion.

 

[Massive G]

Contamination would be the biggest difference with water vs oil. I used test suspension from Steris back in the day. Biggest problem was it would sometimes clog and also stung like a bitch. Simple fix was to buffer with steris b12. Used Jurox back in the day which was a nightmare clog fest so I mixed with oil base AAS making a nice emulsion and smooth injection. Early forms of TNE were stinky and painful but today's formulations are relatively painless and smooth. I used Univet suspension back in the day with mixed reviews but stopped using it after reading a post by Big A about how alot of it going around was faked so stopped messing with it since I wasn't sure what was in it.

 

[Alzadosghost]

I definitely stayed drier on water based test than longer oil esters

 

[cmryan]

I've never used TNE before but am looking to try it out. Only thing I'm wondering what the difference is between the water based vs oil. Aside from the possibility of water based being grainy, having to sake it up and the pip associated with it ate there any added benefits to either or? Also wondering if water based needs refrigeration. Thanks

As @luki7788 stated, in theory there should be no difference, but his observation that water based being slightly faster acting is common. That said, it's not a significantly long time with oil based.

Also, as stated, there is less water retention with water based. I forget the book but that effect was documented back over 30 years ago. If I remember the book I'll post it. Hypothetically, oil based should have the same effect, but I'm not certain if that is the case.

And there's the clogging of needles. It seems to be an effect of larger crystals in the water based versions. Supposedly, crystals are further nowadays micronized and therefore not nearly as much of a problem.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Prefer water. The needle clog is a manufacturing issue. I can make it myself and it’ll go through a 30g without issue every time at 50mg/ml. Good luck finding that ready for purchase, so just stick w oil. It’s easier to make so there’s less chance of a brewer fucking it up

 

[Isovet]

Contamination would be the biggest difference with water vs oil. I used test suspension from Steris back in the day. Biggest problem was it would sometimes clog and also stung like a bitch. Simple fix was to buffer with steris b12. Used Jurox back in the day which was a nightmare clog fest so I mixed with oil base AAS making a nice emulsion and smooth injection. Early forms of TNE were stinky and painful but today's formulations are relatively painless and smooth. I used Univet suspension back in the day with mixed reviews but stopped using it after reading a post by Big A about how alot of it going around was faked so stopped messing with it since I wasn't sure what was in it.

god the jurox was awful with clogging...so was the denkall aquatest. i remember pushing so hard on the plunger i thought i was going to break it.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

YMMV, but my issue with the water based suspensions (test and winny) was that after using for a while and rotating sites, etc, there still would often be some residual "hardness" at injection site, making shots tougher. I guess this is from crystallization in the muscle itself? I didn't get that issue with the oil based test no ester.

 

[LK3]

i dont remember any real differences in actual use.
i used oil much more then water as its easier to mix other aas into it.
water is its own shot.

 

[Siggy]

For anyone that has used No Ester Test, how would you compare it for use as a preworkout versus an oral like Dbol, Anavar or Winstrol?

If it delivers the same pumps, aggression and euphoria as the orals, it seems to be a much better option since there isnt any liver strain. Although pinning it everyday before every workout would be a pain in the ass.

 

[mexbeast]

For anyone that has used No Ester Test, how would you compare it for use as a preworkout versus an oral like Dbol, Anavar or Winstrol?

If it delivers the same pumps, aggression and euphoria as the orals, it seems to be a much better option since there isnt any liver strain. Although pinning it everyday before every workout would be a pain in the ass.

It's been a while since i used test suspension, but I prefer orals as pre w, even though i never go over 20mgs (except a50) I still feel much better with orals, but that's just me.

 

[IFBBProDomCardone]

Ive used both... only potential issue with water is the risk of contamination from UGL water based products. The only TNE oil that I LOVED was from the old strango labs, which freaking stunk of guaciol, lol but incredible effect from it. If you can find an oil based TNE that doesent lump or cause PIP, go with that.

 

[weedle]

Ive used both... only potential issue with water is the risk of contamination from UGL water based products. The only TNE oil that I LOVED was from the old strango labs, which freaking stunk of guaciol, lol but incredible effect from it. If you can find an oil based TNE that doesent lump or cause PIP, go with that.

Everytime I used Strango’s TNE I would get comments from females that I smelled ”minty”. The smell was pretty powerful when I would draw from the vial, but I could never smell it on myself afterward. I guess females have a different sense of smell.
That stuff was definitely lightning in a bottle though. Those workouts were crazy.

 

[Akamai]

Only thing I will add... is I would prefer silicon stopper on water based products .

 

[liv2pb]

I prefer TNE in oil, but I don't really care to much for suspensions. TNE in oil is smooth/easy to pin and no pip. Water based is annoying and it hurts. I prefer to just use more test cyp or something. Don't need to refrigerate either.

 

[IFBBProDomCardone]

Everytime I used Strango’s TNE I would get comments from females that I smelled ”minty”. The smell was pretty powerful when I would draw from the vial, but I could never smell it on myself afterward. I guess females have a different sense of smell.
That stuff was definitely lightning in a bottle though. Those workouts were crazy.

Lighting in a bottle is right...It worked EVERY SINGLE TIME!

 

[hevi-head]

Everytime I used Strango’s TNE I would get comments from females that I smelled ”minty”. The smell was pretty powerful when I would draw from the vial, but I could never smell it on myself afterward. I guess females have a different sense of smell.
That stuff was definitely lightning in a bottle though. Those workouts were crazy.

I used to get the same. Dated a girl that new a little bit of what I did but wouldve bitched if she new it all lol. Needless to say she’s an ex lol.
She would pick me up to go to the gym and every time I pinned tren base she would mention the smell and question what it was. I don’t know if it was coming out of my lungs or what but I always washed up after pinning it

 

[danieltx]

I used to get the same. Dated a girl that new a little bit of what I did but wouldve bitched if she new it all lol. Needless to say she’s an ex lol.
She would pick me up to go to the gym and every time I pinned tren base she would mention the smell and question what it was. I don’t know if it was coming out of my lungs or what but I always washed up after pinning it

My ex would tell me she could smell tren too. I've broken less than 5 vials ever so it was never from any oil actually being exposed.

 

[liv2pb]

My ex would tell me she could smell tren too. I've broken less than 5 vials ever so it was never from any oil actually being exposed.

My wife says my sweat smells different when I'm on tren as well. When i'm dieting/using tren/dnp I smell musty/ammonia/vinegar it's so disgusting lol. Have to use baby powder on my armpits/balls/feet otherwise I will smell so bad at work haha

 

[Doitagain]

My ex would tell me she could smell tren too.

Happened to me as well. My smell has been defined as more "primal" at the time.
Not necessarily worse, but definitely different.