Sherk gets popped!!!

[Rob Roy]

Media should be having a field day with this one at any time now.
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[MaNiFeSt]

going to start seeing alot more of this until all this shit dies down..

why is it a surprise that mma guys juice anyways? seems like a given to me

 

[LATS]

WHOEVER ADVISED HIM TO DO A NANDROLONE COMPOUND SHOULD LOSE HIS JOB.. BEING DETECTABLE FOR 12 MONTHS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE PASSING THOSE TESTS EASY.. THE FUNNY THING IS HIS OPPONENT IN THAT FIGHT FAILED TOO.. BOTH ARE SUSPENDED..

 

[roidrage]

What is still favourable for Sherk is that the amount found in his urine contained 12ng/ml which, eventhough on the higher end of the scale still can be questioned whatever it actualy was casued by an anabolic agent or simply a result of training, diet, supplements etc.

As a sidenote, Hermes Franca was caught with masteron

 

[MaNiFeSt]

royce gracie was caught with deca.

the list goes on and on...

 

[haze324]

What is still favourable for Sherk is that the amount found in his urine contained 12ng/ml which, eventhough on the higher end of the scale still can be questioned whatever it actualy was casued by an anabolic agent or simply a result of training, diet, supplements etc.

As a sidenote, Hermes Franca was caught with masteron

Good point man, also Nathan Marquardt had tested positive for Nandralone about two years ago and after re-testing he came up clean. I'm willing to bet Sherk gets cleared.

Hermes though....whats up with the masteron. I give him props for fessin up and taking it like a man. The guy straight up said I hurt my ankle during training and I needed something to get me healthy to train. I couldn't pass up this fight, this is how I pay my bills.

 

[tonka]

maybe he'll use this excuse


"Urine analysis as a method of detecting nandrolone abuse has recently become somewhat controversial, following studies by the University of Aberdeen showing that the metabolite product can also show up in urine in quantities above the upper limit from a combination of high-protein diets utilising the legal nutritional supplement creatine and hard cardiovascular exercise. The reason for this unexpected result has not been determined. Another possible (though unlikely) reason for a false positive result is the consumption of beef from cattle treated with steroids including nandrolone (used in overturning the verdict against the bobsleigh racer, Lenny Paul). Heavy consumption of the essential amino acid lysine (as indicated in the treatment of cold sores) has also shown false positives in some and was cited by American Shotputter C.J. Hunter as the reason for his positive test."

 

[Iabadman]

MMA is going going to have a whole host of problems in the future.Believe me I was around a whos who in the sport 11- 12 yrs ago when the sport first was coming together. I can tell you back then ,the guys into back then where just in it to compete ,stay out of trouble , and test their limits. Now with money starting to be made and all of the exposure that it is getting. You are going to see a whole host of problems arrise in this sport.

This sport gives every 150-200 lb white guy with balls a chance to be a bad ass[plus maybe make a few bucks ,get loads of attention,and roll sum ass being a bad boy].You have a whole host of insecure wanna be bad asses being attracted to the sport and that is not good[just like in bbing ironically]. You will have murders , drugs issues , and lots of failed drug tests in the future [more than any sport I am afraid]. Mark my words . And I love the sport ,just maybe not the market it has attracted. When you can roll for 6 months , get a bunch of tatoos' , wear a tap out beanie ,and recieve attention. This is not good and has got away from the whole reason the sport took off in the first place. It used to be about testing your skills against another , now it is about entertainment.[ for some ,it is about the MMA a lifestyle ....being a tough guy ...hanging out at bars ,chasing strippers [I so know this one well], and chilling at the dojo talking shit ...... And yes ,I do know there there are still many honest family guys in the sport and some real competitors as well.....but they are the minority now.....and in the future it will be come even more rare ]
Gear has always been used in boxing and was in MMA since the very begining. I could go into detail here , but I won't . I have seen it at the highest levels up close and personal .Combat sports are just too hard to recover for most without them. In my days playing football [15 yrs ago], I would say 40-60 % of the TE's , FBs, O and D lineman , and Linebackers were either on or had used gear . I would say now ,that it would be less .I would say baseball was higher than football at one time before the scandle ,because the guys wanted the power and to look better in their uniforms......and yes ,I heard this straight from the mouth of a big time major leaguer....] Hocky was bad too ...........but MMA , is probably 75 % right now. When a guy like Royce Gracie ,that barely even weight trains is caught using gear ,that should tell you how bad it really is .......The sad thing is very few have in any knowledge of gear and get poor advice. So the positive tests where continue ,until it attracts some gurus to help like what occurs in track[as they money grows the will appear....lol....maybe even a guy from this board]........

I see nothing wrong with drugs in sport . But I believe if the rules say no ,then play by the rules. If someone doesn't . Then that is on them. And if you play by rules ,don't cry if someone chooses not to .People will always want to be the best they can be. And I think we will all agree drugs used intelligently will make us preform better......So why don't all sports just legalize preformance enhancers ? Simple ,because society still has people in power that have religious based agendas .[ what happened to the seperation of chruch and state? It never happened ] Same reason rec drugs will never be legal[I hate them by the way] ,and abortion will always be under fire. We don't govern ourselves with rational and logic . We gorvern ourselves based on whatever agendas can generate our public servants the most money to continue to stay in or advance in power .[ So don't expect any changes to this stupidity any time soon]

I am sad for Mr Sherk and his family .He is one of the few good hard working family guys in the sport. And his career was just destroyed by someone getting him bad advice. I however believe ,if you play , you pay .He took a chance and got caught .And he won't be the last I am afraid.In the end ,we all know this whole anti drugs in sports thing is bs .But in life ,there are lots of laws I think are bs .But if I choose to break one , I sure as hell know there is a price to pay if I get caught. I am sure Mr Sherk knew this as well ,but still took the chance anyway .......scarything ,he is a very skilled hard working guy ......were the drugs really worth the risk he took ? I bet now he would say No .......

 

[tonka]

great post Iabadman! I feel bad for shawn also, he seemed like a really family oriented guy who works hard for his family when he was on UFC All access.

 

[profitness]

Living in Vegas and training in MMA p/t

I have seen it all. Painkillers, steroids, ecstacy binges all at the same time with some top MMA guys. They are no different than any other top performers and athletes who get a chance here and there to "live it up". Esp in this town where everything is accessible when your "king of the world". I am a nobody but just happen to know some somebodys, lol! I say who gives a f***, as long as your not acting like "king ding a ling" live it up. Enjoy your life. Take all the sterioids you want, if thats what it takes, just understand the consequesnces and be accountable. In my dealing with others, whenever asked if I take steroids I say yes cause its the truth. I leave it at that. i dont try to explain myself or to say under "the supervision of blah blah blah". I have nothing to be ashamed of and I dont answer to anybody but me and my creator. This is where this sport and performance enhancers got off to the wrong start imo, was with all the denial. Geez, maybe if we just said yes from the beginning and didnt try to keep such a dirty secret things might have been different today. Fortunately here in vegas, everyone does steroids, or is more or less open to doing them. No one is really that interested in comp BBing though. They just take steroids to look good amongst thier peers as its a pretty competetive place in other ways. With USA a week away I have yet to see one poster in any of the gyms I train in. Between Golds and Local gyms I havent even seen a flyer. I couldnt even tell you where its being held this year and I train with a guy who is in close contact with 2 pros, both being family. This is his sport and he thinks its at UNLV auditorium. Neither of us have investigated it, lol. At the rate this is going the USA will be in an elementary cafeteria somewhere on the outskirts of town. Pathetic. I have been around this sport for 15 years now and it really looks bad imo only cause I have seen the best of it. Now with the heat turned up full blast the risk to reward ratio is really insane. Good luck to those who are committed to stay the course. You are really going to need it.

 

[Nytol]

I have to think there was a bad batch of something, or he got ripped off and ended up with Nandrolone instead of what he wanted.

He looks like he is pretty experienced with AAS, and even the newest user knows Nandrolone is the one thing tested athletes need to stay away from.

 

[MMAGorilla]

There are some great posts in this thread! I would take the time to do some quoting, but I'd run out of room fast.

This thread could spin off in a bunch of different directions. I'd love to hear peoples opinions on drugs in sport- any sport.

As a competitor and a family man, I definately sympathize with Sherk. The reality of high level MMA comp is that if you want to train hard enough to compete at this level you had better be an expert at recovery- which includes performance enhancing drugs. Sherk is a pro, and in my humble opinion his source wasn't a pro and he probably didn't know he was using nandralone.

Iabadmans post was awesome, and like he said, it won't be long before you start seeing "doctors" working with MMA pros just like the olympic sports or cycling. It's too bad that people want to see athletes in any sport constantly breaking records and raising their games to new levels while at the same time calling them cheaters for intelligently trying to take care of their bodies. Crazy!

 

[Iabadman]

Completely agree MMA gorrilla.......the hypocrisy is amazing ......It is hard to go backwards .....Not the nature of man ....If man has won the 100m in 9.79 ,will people flock to the track to see guys running 10.3 ? The same goes to fan of the NFL.Would they watch the game if the athletes of the 60s were playing? I doubt it. Man's nature is to progress and try to win . These two things will probably destroy us all in time as well.......but great point and the the under lying cause of this whole thing is lack of seperation from religious agendas in our gov ........you could break it down , and research it , and you would see we have never had it and never will .And most other countries have the exact same problem but even worse. Religions have very little to do with God, and everything to do with control , fear , and pursuit of gaining wealth and power. If you can't see that ,you are blind. The ideas of religion are ment to be appealing and enlightening by design. Please don't think I am saying that there is no God or judging anyone .I am just pointing out the religion is a muse .A muse that kills 1000s everyday......if people really were close to God, they would see that clear as day.........

What people do or how they practice is their business.But when it is killing many 1000s of my fellow human being everyday and is incarcerating 1000s more, it kind of gets to me. I thought government [especially in the US ] was established to help and support it's people. But instead it is all about corperate and religious agendas . Expect things to only get worse .As the economy starts to struggle .More freedoms will be taken ,and people will want to blame somebody.......Drugs in sports? Unbelievable .....since when did sport become a political ,moral , or religious issue......simple... as soon as big money became involved .......this isnt about protecting athletes.....this about money , power , and control ........open yours eyes my friends.....Am I lying ?

 

[roidrage]

Good point man, also Nathan Marquardt had tested positive for Nandralone about two years ago and after re-testing he came up clean. I'm willing to bet Sherk gets cleared.

Hermes though....whats up with the masteron. I give him props for fessin up and taking it like a man. The guy straight up said I hurt my ankle during training and I needed something to get me healthy to train. I couldn't pass up this fight, this is how I pay my bills.

Off topic - I just wanted to take the opportunity and thank you for directing me to this website. I have learned alot. Thx