SHOULDER INJ. HELP

HAZMAT · Mar 2, 2006

I HAVE ALWAYS USED THE OUTER SHOULDER TO INJ. INTO AND NOW THAT I HAVE BUILT UP SOME LUMP UNDER MY SHOULDER. I HAVE DRAINED IT SEVERAL TIMES AND GOT SOME ANTIBIOTICS TOO. WENT WAY DOWN BUT STILL THERE. I HIT THE SHOULDER AGAIN AFTER 6 WEEKS OFF AND RIGHT AWAY THE LUMP SWELLED UP AND I COULD TELL THE OIL WASN'T GETTING PROCESSED THROUGH THE MUSCLE. I GUESS IT IS DUE TO SCAR TISSUE NOT LETTING THE OIL TRAVEL. SO I HAVE DESIDED TO USE THE FRONT DELT. I HIT THE FRONT DELT HEAD WITH 2CC IN EACH SHOULDER. MY QUESTION IS THIS TO MUCH OIL FOR SUCH A SMALL HEAD RIGHT OFF THE BAT? I WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND THEY HURT LIKE HELL BUT I THINK MOST OF THE PAIN IS DUE TO THE SUSTANON. IT HURTS JUST TO TYPE THIS. WILL THE HEAD GET USED TO THE SUSTANON LIKE OTHER MUSCLE GROUPS OR IS THIS JUST WAY TO MUCH OIL?

Armageddon · Mar 2, 2006

yes it will get used to it and you'll be alright with that spot.
My concern would be to break up that scar tissue in the shoulder if that is what you believe it to be. Rub/massage it in a hard maner, maybe even check out an ART practitioner as they have good techniques for getting deep into a muscle and removing scar tissue.
Or you could see a massage therapist, but you would need a deep tissue therapist. Maybe even someone that does "ralphing" it's a deep tissue technique that only a few per area specialize in.
Let us know how it turns out!

Kaiser · Mar 2, 2006

Armageddon said:
yes it will get used to it and you'll be alright with that spot.
My concern would be to break up that scar tissue in the shoulder if that is what you believe it to be. Rub/massage it in a hard maner, maybe even check out an ART practitioner as they have good techniques for getting deep into a muscle and removing scar tissue.
Or you could see a massage therapist, but you would need a deep tissue therapist. Maybe even someone that does "ralphing" it's a deep tissue technique that only a few per area specialize in.
Let us know how it turns out!

Arm is right again. Sometimes a deep tissue massage telling them about the area will help out. What happens is your body forms a cyst lining around the oil sort of like what it would do with a breast implant to encapsulate it. For shoulders, I have always made it a point to put the pin all the way in, shoot 1/3, then pull the needle out about a third of the way and shoot another third. then repeat for the last 1/3 of the shot. This has helped me never get anything in my shoulders.

HAZMAT · Mar 2, 2006

THANKS GUYS

I WILL GET A DEEP TISSUE MASSAGE SOON BUT I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MY BACNE GOES DOWN AND MY SHOULDER PAIN GOES WAY DOWN BEFORE ANYONE TOUCHES IT LET ALONE RUBS IT. THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS I THINK YOUR TOTALLY RIGHT ABOUT IT FORMING A CYCTIC CAPSLE AND NOT LETTING THE OIL FILTER. AS FOR THE REAR DELT IS IT JUST AS PAINFULL? I WAS USING 22G IN THE OUTER AND HAVE WENT DOWN TO A 25G ON THE FRONT DELT IT FELT WAY MORE COMFORTABLE THAN THE 22G. I THINK THE WEEKLY INJ. ON THE SHOULDER WAS WHAT CAUSED THE SCAR TISSUE BECAUSE I WAS ON FOR 16 WEEKS WITH OUTER SHOULDER INJ. EVERY WED. AND QUADS FRIDAY AND GLUTES ON MON. AND I WOULD USE BOTH DELTS, GLUTES, AND QUAD MUSCLE'S TO INJ SO I COULDN'T ROTATE FROM SIDE TO SIDE. THANKS FOR THE ADVISE AND I WILL GET THE MESSAGE A.S.A.P.

Ashop · Mar 3, 2006

HAZMAT said:
I HAVE ALWAYS USED THE OUTER SHOULDER TO INJ. INTO AND NOW THAT I HAVE BUILT UP SOME LUMP UNDER MY SHOULDER. I HAVE DRAINED IT SEVERAL TIMES AND GOT SOME ANTIBIOTICS TOO. WENT WAY DOWN BUT STILL THERE. I HIT THE SHOULDER AGAIN AFTER 6 WEEKS OFF AND RIGHT AWAY THE LUMP SWELLED UP AND I COULD TELL THE OIL WASN'T GETTING PROCESSED THROUGH THE MUSCLE. I GUESS IT IS DUE TO SCAR TISSUE NOT LETTING THE OIL TRAVEL. SO I HAVE DESIDED TO USE THE FRONT DELT. I HIT THE FRONT DELT HEAD WITH 2CC IN EACH SHOULDER. MY QUESTION IS THIS TO MUCH OIL FOR SUCH A SMALL HEAD RIGHT OFF THE BAT? I WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND THEY HURT LIKE HELL BUT I THINK MOST OF THE PAIN IS DUE TO THE SUSTANON. IT HURTS JUST TO TYPE THIS. WILL THE HEAD GET USED TO THE SUSTANON LIKE OTHER MUSCLE GROUPS OR IS THIS JUST WAY TO MUCH OIL?

I would use the glute area for awhile if I were you.

Armageddon · Mar 3, 2006

You've also got two arms and bicep shots are the best. I mean this for real, I just love it!

HAZMAT · Mar 3, 2006

ALIN

I HIT BOTH QUADS ON MON., BOTH SHOULDERS ON WED., BOTH GLUTES ON FRI., SOORY I SHOULD HAVE ELABERATED MORE. I KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT THINK THERE IS A BENEFIT TO SITE INJ. BUT EVER SINCE I STARTED HITTING MY SHOULDERS, MY WIDTH IS VERY NOTICABLE AND I GET MORE COMPLEMENTS ON MY SHOULDERS MORE THAN ANYTHING. I THINK I WILL GO DOWN ON THE DOSES AND INCORPERATE SOME HGH. SO IF ANYONE KNOWS OF A GOOD FRIEND. PM ME PLEASE. I THINK I WAS JUST INJ. WAY TO MUCH FOR WAY TO LONG. SHOULDERS STILL HURT LIKE HELL. I WORKED THEM OUT YESTERDAY IN ORDER TO LOSEN UP A LITTLE BUT NOW THERE SUPERSORE FROM WORKOUT AND SUSTANON, ALITTLE RED AS WELL. THIS SHOULDER SHIT SUCKS PERIOD.

Armageddon · Mar 3, 2006

I wouldn't put anything in your shoulders for several weeks. It could be alot of what Kaiser said or it could be an infection. But if you took some antibiotics I think he's more on the right path than anything. But I really wouldn't put anything in there at all for some time.

HAZMAT · Mar 3, 2006

INFECTION

THE LUMP ISN'T AN INFECTION AT ALL BECAUSE IT HAS NEVER BEEN SORE OR TENDER AND I HAVE DRAINED IT SEVERAL TIMES AND EVEN WENT TO THE DOCTOR OVER IT, AND HE SAID HE WOULDN'T LANCE IT DUE TO THE LISTED DIAGNOSIS. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A CANIDATE TO OPEN FOR THREE DAYS. HE GAVE ME AMOXACILIAN CLAVE TABS AT 875MG EACH 2ADAY FOR FIFTEEN DAYS.I TRIED TO INJ. IN THE CENTER OF THE LUMP AND TRIED TO BLOW OUT THE BACK OF THE POCKET BUT NO SUCH LUCK. THIS TIME WHEN IT FILLED UP THERE WASN'T NEARLLY AS MUCH OIL DRAINED OUT AS TO HOW MUCH I PUT IN. SO I THINK I WILL JUST LEAVE IT ALONE FOR A LONG WHILE AND GET A DEEP TISSUE MESSAGE AND IF THE LUMP GOES AWAY THEN I WILL TRY TO INJ. INTO IT BUT IF IT NEVER GOES AWAY I WILL PROBABLY NEVER SHOOT IN THERE AGAIN. I HAVE TO GET MY ACNE DOWN ALOT BEFOR I LET SOME CHICK RUB ON MY BACK AND SHOULDERS. I HAVE NEVER HAD SUCH BAD ACNE BEFORE IN MY LIFE AND I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING AND SO ON TO ACCUTANE CREAM TWICE A DAY WITH 20MG TABS IN THE MORNING AND AT NIGHT FOR 5 MONTHS.

Kaiser · Mar 3, 2006

HAZMAT said:
THE LUMP ISN'T AN INFECTION AT ALL BECAUSE IT HAS NEVER BEEN SORE OR TENDER AND I HAVE DRAINED IT SEVERAL TIMES AND EVEN WENT TO THE DOCTOR OVER IT, AND HE SAID HE WOULDN'T LANCE IT DUE TO THE LISTED DIAGNOSIS. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A CANIDATE TO OPEN FOR THREE DAYS. HE GAVE ME AMOXACILIAN CLAVE TABS AT 875MG EACH 2ADAY FOR FIFTEEN DAYS.I TRIED TO INJ. IN THE CENTER OF THE LUMP AND TRIED TO BLOW OUT THE BACK OF THE POCKET BUT NO SUCH LUCK. THIS TIME WHEN IT FILLED UP THERE WASN'T NEARLLY AS MUCH OIL DRAINED OUT AS TO HOW MUCH I PUT IN. SO I THINK I WILL JUST LEAVE IT ALONE FOR A LONG WHILE AND GET A DEEP TISSUE MESSAGE AND IF THE LUMP GOES AWAY THEN I WILL TRY TO INJ. INTO IT BUT IF IT NEVER GOES AWAY I WILL PROBABLY NEVER SHOOT IN THERE AGAIN. I HAVE TO GET MY ACNE DOWN ALOT BEFOR I LET SOME CHICK RUB ON MY BACK AND SHOULDERS. I HAVE NEVER HAD SUCH BAD ACNE BEFORE IN MY LIFE AND I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING AND SO ON TO ACCUTANE CREAM TWICE A DAY WITH 20MG TABS IN THE MORNING AND AT NIGHT FOR 5 MONTHS.

Keep in mind that even if it does go away to where you cannot feel it, the housing (shell) may still be there its just empty. You may not be able to shoot in that area for a while if that is the case otherwise your back to where you are now. just get used to some net injection sites.