Site injections out of control at the Jr's.

Massive G · Jun 19, 2007

Even at the the junior level, the nationals stage was littered with bodies with site injections?
why is this so apparent now vs 10 years ago, is it the quality of the gear or just that everyoneis using more and more higher doses and higher BA containing AAS oils? The scar tissue is really noticeable when people lean out.
I have my own thoughts but daggone, they soon will have to start disqualifying everyone or marking them down if they would enforce such a rule.
Why is everyone using site injections now with gear?
I can see with synthol for local growth due to the tissue expansion but seems a lot of scar tissue is evident and knotting from use of these injections just randomly shot in the muscle it seems.

littlemack · Jun 19, 2007

Could be the latest Fad! You know how this stuff is Massive, people will do just about anything, once they catch wind of this stuff. The internet is like the wind. hahaha. Good question.

K1 · Jun 19, 2007

littlemack said:
Could be the latest Fad! You know how this stuff is Massive, people will do just about anything, once they catch wind of this stuff. The internet is like the wind. hahaha. Good question.

I agree bro..........

Macdaddy · Jun 19, 2007

Its actually pretty sad. I chalk it all up to these chat boards. Guys hear that so and so is using 4 grams of test, so they think that they need to use 4 grams, even though they were getting good results from 1 gram.

These chat boards make it so easy for people to communicate. And unfortunately, people are not always getting the correct advise. Back in the day, you would only know what someone else was using if you actually physically talked to that person. So there was less chance of crazy things being said. On these boards, you really don't know who you are talking to except for certain cases. Some 20 year old punk could be saying he is all this and that, but is actually just some pencil neck dweeb telling you to use more and more.

I think people are looking towards the drugs and site injects to grow instead of good old fashioned hard work and strict diet.

BigWilly · Jun 19, 2007

Macdaddy said:
These chat boards make it so easy for people to communicate. And unfortunately, people are not always getting the correct advise. Back in the day, you would only know what someone else was using if you actually physically talked to that person. So there was less chance of crazy things being said. On these boards, you really don't know who you are talking to except for certain cases. Some 20 year old punk could be saying he is all this and that, but is actually just some pencil neck dweeb telling you to use more and more.

I see what you mean, but overall I disagree. I've heard more "crazy" things being said in gyms and I've found a lot of accurate and sound advice on the boards. Without the boards, most would be in the dark IMO.

musclehead33 · Jun 19, 2007

i would have to say that everyone has made some good points,but if you are talkin little lumps i have them all over in biceps and chest and i dont do site injects.just my 2.peace

Dusty Hanshaw · Jun 19, 2007

The truth is that I have spoken with a bunch of guys on both the national level as well as pro's that will openly admit to site injecting. Some of them have obvious scar tissue while others you can't even tell. IMO the biggest problem is that a lot of guys don't know how to site inject correctly. Flame away

I want to make it perfectly clear that I agree that site injecting is a problem in BBing but if guys are going to do it they should learn how to do it in a way that won't ruin there chances of having a good BBing career.

Dad · Jun 19, 2007

Ok, just to be clear, Massive - are yuo talking about things like Syntherol, or guys trying to site inject gear for localized growth, or both?

Not disagreeing here, but are there some specific examples?

sickboy · Jun 19, 2007

I dont' think there's anything wrong with site injects. I just think a lot of people are just doing them incorrectly.

getinbig · Jun 19, 2007

i am curious as well

Dad said:
Ok, just to be clear, Massive - are yuo talking about things like Syntherol, or guys trying to site inject gear for localized growth, or both?

Not disagreeing here, but are there some specific examples?

Massive G · Jun 19, 2007

Dad said:
Ok, just to be clear, Massive - are yuo talking about things like Syntherol, or guys trying to site inject gear for localized growth, or both?

Not disagreeing here, but are there some specific examples?

D,
What I am referring to is the lumps of tissue I saw in some competitors delts and bis and tris.

I personally think this comes from injections of AAS into those sites, either randomly or with out a plan and the compounds cause irritation and scar tissue-making it look un even and it gets worse when they diet down.

Dad · Jun 19, 2007

Ok, got it, thanks.

Think this comes from doing the injections incorrectly, or is it just an inherent problem with site injecting AAS?

Shelby · Jun 19, 2007

Dusty Hanshaw · Jun 19, 2007

!berserker said:
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That is just being a dumbass when taking his anabolics. Like I said you need to change where you take your shots or else you will have scar tissue that looks stupid and takes away from your physique. I hope this guy got points deducted for this.

km2000 · Jun 19, 2007

i noticed the same thing when i was pumping up back stage, everyone had shit in their shoulders! i couldnt belive it..... it really is noticable though... i was going to start a thread on this but didnt know if it was approproiate...

if you noticed hardly anyone had shoulders that would pop when they flexed... they were the same size, shape with no seperation just a big smooth mangled mess.....

Massive G · Jun 19, 2007

Dad said:
Ok, got it, thanks.

Think this comes from doing the injections incorrectly, or is it just an inherent problem with site injecting AAS?

I'd say both. some guys look like they just played

enie meenie minie mo

with a pin and or injected blindfolded...example someone contiually pumping oil in the side delt like the gentleman above Beserker posted.... no plan just popped and shot in areas they could reach probably didn't massage or do anything but load a rig up and boom.

I think some of the higher dosed solvent containing gears can cause more scar tissue as well.

mikeheavypecs · Jun 19, 2007

!berserker said:
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I think a good judge should see that like the pic above and count off points. The lump in the pic is not even a delt muscle! Looks riduculous. This reminds me of the implant "problem " that started in teh IFBB/NPC back in the late 80's and the judges decided to disqualify especially for calf implants...

Mike

Massive G · Jun 19, 2007

Also I should clarify I consider site enhancement and site injects totally different animals.
One has a plan one doesn't. The random injecting of AAS into bodyparts to try and enhance it does not work very well, nor does it induce site specific growth from anabolism which occurs systemically. It's like everything else people need to educate themselves and not do things randomly.