Sus500 and ATD

donjoy · Nov 15, 2008

I've been considering a cycle of Sus500, but I keep catching bits and pieces about the ATD causing an estrogen rebound. I've also been hearing that libido can be killed during cycle.

I have been more curious about the estrogen rebound from the ATD, generally about how it is caused. If anyone could post personal experiences and what they have done, or could do to mitigate the issues it would be very helpful.

bearsfan · Nov 15, 2008

are you talking about sus500 prohormone from g.e.t.?

donjoy · Nov 15, 2008

Yes, the PH from g.e.t. Sorry, I should have made that clear from the start.

bearsfan · Nov 15, 2008

i'm currently on a cycle of it right now (it's my second one). i usually start taking 6-oxo or novedex xt about two weeks into the cycle which seems to help. i'm not huge into prohormones, but sus500 is excellent. run an anti-e for a couple weeks afterwards and you shouldn't have a "crash" like most prohormones, which makes it so good. to be clear, i'm not sure you need an anti-e DURING the cycle, i did just in case. sus500 is a great prohormone though, probably why it's about to be banned

Phlmuscle · Nov 15, 2008

I just finished a cycle of SUS500, and I took on a lot of water in my legs and feet. My body weight went up 20 lbs. in a month. In addition, I had a lot of redness on the soles of my feet, especially the heels. I'm off it now for one week and it's starting to go away.

Ashop · Nov 15, 2008

whats the active ingredient in this product?

HeavyHands · Nov 15, 2008

I used SUS for one month. Fantastic product as far as strength gains go and putting on weight. I put on a little over 15 pounds in that month (for the most part lean, little water) and strength went up DRAMATICALLY.

However. It KILLED my libido. By the end of my fourth week my libido was at an all-time low. My girlfriend was extremely pissed at me for taking it and it added alot of unnecessary stress to my life. After about 4 weeks or so off SUS, my libido came back up to normal though.

So if you can suck it up and deal with a lack of libido, you will see some big time strength increases.

As far as maintaining that level of strength, I'd say I was able to keep alot of the strength I was able to build while on (obviously not ALL, but quite a bit for sure).

Had it not been for the libido-killing side-effect, this product would get a 10/10 from me.

donjoy · Nov 16, 2008

I think that is what is keeping me worried about running it. I know that in this game you just have to assume some risks and deal with consequences, but I am wondering if anyone knows what specifically about this compound kills the libido and what could to be done to prevent it.

It seemed from other boards I was browsing through that ATD might have caused the libido issues, but with the 3 different compounds and how the PH's are unpredictable at best I am not even sure about that. Is the lack of estrogen the libido killer with this stuff? Would Proviron help?

It might be a case of "you can't have your cake and eat it too," but if anyone knows something I don't, I am always happy to be learning.

donjoy · Nov 16, 2008

HeavyHands said:
I used SUS for one month. Fantastic product as far as strength gains go and putting on weight. I put on a little over 15 pounds in that month (for the most part lean, little water) and strength went up DRAMATICALLY.QUOTE]

Just curious how many caps you ran per day and what your starting bodyweight was?