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SYNTHOL AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE?

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SYNTHOL AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE?
Hey guys, real quick,
Has anyone experienced high blood pressure while on synthol or a synthol like (MCT) product?
Appreciated
Thanks again



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02-19-2002 03:13 AM



Paul Bunyan
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No
And there is no medical reason why anyone should. PB



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02-19-2002 03:27 AM



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Re: No

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And there is no medical reason why anyone should. PB
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Correct.
Syntherol is not a drug. Drugs like testosterone increase bllod pressurebecause they make the user retain water, which in turn results in higher blood pressure. Syntherol doesn't do any of that.



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02-19-2002 08:43 AM



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thanks guys I was just curious. I was also curious as to how long before say, a 200 ml bottle of MCT in the delts would metabolize? Any thoughts?
Thanks again



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02-19-2002 10:55 AM



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Big A,
do you know how synthol is metabolized?
and any thoughts of shots in the chest>? think the facial stretching works if this is a way to do it. thanks lex



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02-19-2002 11:17 AM



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Syntherol gets metabolised exactly the same as any gear oil. It just takes longer due to the longer chain fatty acid.

I know a few people that are doing chest shots. The principle works the same as any other muscle group. The only thing is that since the pecs are a flat muscle, you need lots of daily shots in close proximity, so to 'raise' the entire muscle, otherwise it will end up lumpy.



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02-19-2002 07:13 PM



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Plaster...MTC?
Hey bro just spend A few extra bucks and get some
Syntherol. No baking or steralizing & it works much better,IMO
rajjin



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02-19-2002 07:52 PM



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Big A,
thanks...I was thinking like .4 cc along the plane of upper chest from insertion to insertion...everyday sound resonable? and one more thing..any concern with the sillica(?) they add hanging around in tissue forever? LEX



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02-19-2002 08:00 PM



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Syntherol
Heres A pic for any who havent seen it.

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02-19-2002 08:40 PM



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OOps Illtry again
Here goes?

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02-19-2002 08:54 PM



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Lex - yes, that is the way to do it in the pecs. You can increase it up to 1ml per site.
Silica is not dangerous at all. Virtually every natural product in the world has silica in it (check out any label on any supp from Twinlabs for example). The silica metioned in Syntherol is just the trace amounts found in the oil, which is fractioned coconut oil. Certainly nothing to worry about and it will dissipate at the smae rate as the oil itself will. And don't confuse silica with silicone. Silicone is dangerous. But comparing them is like comparing ephedrine and speed. Two different products (safety wise) but in the same family.

rajjin - that's some funky squashed up pic! LOL



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02-20-2002 08:15 PM



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Thanks .,,:)
I owe someone a favor.
Ill Practice some more b/fore throwin any more pics up. LMao
GEEZ


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02-21-2002 02:06 AM



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Hey big A,
I have heard that the permenancy of the oil is more like a few months and not years as advertised by the first manufacturors. Is there any validity to this and if so (damn i sound so scientific), please tell me how long i can expect my body to metabolize the product?
Thanks a lot for the imput guys!!



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02-21-2002 04:44 AM



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Rajjin - I damn missed that underwear pic!

Plaster - Syntherol dissipates within months. People used to believe that site oils take years to dissipate because tey didn't know how to use them properly so they would get scar tissue, which in turn would take years to break down/ When you use it properly, there won't be any scar tissue.
Check out my thread 'Site Enhancing Oils.............' it's a bit further down the board. It explains everything.



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02-21-2002 08:08 AM



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Looks like from the picture that it comes in a normal screw top bottle. Won't it get dirty easily from opening and closing?



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02-21-2002 08:19 AM



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Big A, ok, why not just inject the same doses but roids...any advantage either way? done that to my delts with good results...thanks again...!!



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02-21-2002 08:21 AM



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Looks like from the picture that it comes in a normal screw top bottle. Won't it get dirty easily from opening and closing?
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It's not a normal screw on top. It's made to look like that for various reasons... It has a rubber stopper and everything. You are not supposed to unscrew the top.



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02-21-2002 08:40 AM



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Big A, ok, why not just inject the same doses but roids...any advantage either way? done that to my delts with good results...thanks again...!!
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You won't get the same results with gear simply because the gear dissipates way too quickly. So it doesn't have a chance to stretch the fascia. Plus gear inflames the muscle while Syntherol doesn't.



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02-21-2002 08:42 AM



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quote:
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Looks like from the picture that it comes in a normal screw top bottle. Won't it get dirty easily from opening and closing?
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The cap actually has a covered septum that's pretty nice. Don't unscrew the top!

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Originally posted by Big A
Rajjin - I damn missed that underwear pic!

YEAH YEAH...I Know. Someone seen the damn thing lol
Geez I wish I could~ve seen the look on my face when I seen that
Image.. Guess I better not Scam anyone cuz someone now has A pic
of me in my damn undies. I guess its kinda funny now, but bro
I wasIn some type of shock when I seen That $hi.

Also if my pic was A little better you could see the Stopper on The
Syntherol bottle. Good stuff that ones almost gone. Time to re~up
rAJJIN so far 100ml no infections, only side effect is
Swolen bis ~n shoulders. lol



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Big A, is it recommended to use for contest prep?



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02-21-2002 09:30 AM



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It's a must for comp use. Just stop it a few days before the show in case you have any inflamation.



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02-21-2002 06:54 PM



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I am seriously considering using syntherol in my pecs. I feel that my chest is something that needs to be brought up. What size pins should be used for injecting in your pecs? Are there any areas on the pecs that should be avoided? Any other pertinent info would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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02-22-2002 04:15 AM



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1/2 inch 26g is fine. SOme people use 28g or even 29g!

You can inj anywhere in the pecs. The outer areas hurt more than the rest.



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02-22-2002 08:23 AM



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Can I use an insulin needle 29g (i think it's 3/4 inch) for arms? And is it recommended to inject forearms?



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02-22-2002 10:19 AM



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I personally use 26g 1/2inch. The insulin needles would be 1/2 inch too. I assume that if u are using 29g, you would need that much more finger power to push the oil in as a 29g is quite a small needle.



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02-22-2002 06:41 PM



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I use a 25g, 1" pin and can't see using anything smaller based on my recent experiences. I just bumped up to 3cc Syntherol in biceps ED (alternating heads EOD). I always inject my left arm first and seem to have to "hold back" to keep injection time under 1 min per cc. When I inject my right arm, it takes 4-5 min to inject and it seems like it just won't go through the pin - WTF !?!?!

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How long have you been using it straight for? It could be a built up f oil in the muscle, but if the left arm is fine, then maybe the oil in the right arm has not dissipated enough through the muscle? Massage more and move the sites around.
Also, do you feel 'lumps' in the muscle? That is oil that has collected in one spot or scar tissue. That means that you are not massaging enough after shots. Stop the shots for a while while you massage the lumps out and only then resume. The muscle should always be soft with no lumps/scar tissue.



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02-22-2002 08:09 PM



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I'm just finishing my 3rd week of use. I believe since I inject slow and massage well, I haven't had any problems with lumps (just doing what I've been told to do).

Since I just bumped up to 3cc, I'm not mixing in gear any more (pin's not large enough!). Just checked again, NO LUMPS on either head on either bicep.

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02-22-2002 09:02 PM



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Well, then the reason why the oil is not going in easy in the right bi is because YOU ARE AN ALIEN!!!!!!



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02-22-2002 09:37 PM



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Alien
Sheeeeet - you figured it out BigA (you are as smart as they say!). Please don't post this on any other board!

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02-22-2002 09:59 PM



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See if this makes any sense?
Here is my ritual: Remove the 25g needle from syringe. Put a 20g on to draw with. Replace 20g with 25g then inject one bicep - I always begin with injecting left bicep because I'm right-handed.

Then, with same syringe, remove the 25g needle from syringe. Put a 20g on to draw with. Replace 20g with 25g then inject the other/right bicep, which is the one that is very difficult to push oil into!

Well I tried this today: I injected my "right" bicep first and I had to hold-back in order to stay under 1 min per cc. When I injected my left bicep, I had a hard time pushing the oil through!

So - Is there anyone out there as cheap as me that uses a pin for two shots and experiences the same thing?

BTW, I drew blood "twice" today when aspirating my right inner head! I've drawn blood "way" more times in my biceps than in over 3-1/2 years of poking myself everywhere else! I usually just draw a "little drop" in bis but I still repoke. Today, one of those two was my first "gusher" that's expected when you hit a vein.

BigA: I started injecting both heads ED, 4 shots ED. That means 5 shots on gear day and after I begin adding an oral, 6 shots ED (adding sythergine). And I hate giving myself shots!!!!

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02-24-2002 09:43 PM



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That's it. For some reason when you reuse a syringe, the plunger inside 'sticks' to the walls, making it MUCH harder to inject. That's happened to me on the very few times I had to use a case twice.

Also, why are u using the same needle twice? Case I understand, but the needle gets much more blunt after the first poke, especially if it's a Terumo. So if it's more blunt, it will cause more damage/scar tissue. Plus it hurts more! LOL



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02-25-2002 08:35 AM



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Well here's my simple-minded logic. Most people use one pin "twice." Once to poke the vial and second poke in the body. Since I'm using a 20g to draw, I'm not poking any more than most most people that use the same pin to draw and inject!

Now when I drew blood twice in a row today, I ended up taking 4 pokes with one pin. Since I'm a big baby, I wouldn't do it if the pokes hurt - a pin costs less than $0.10. On my 4 and 5 poke day I'm using two barrells (2 & 3 pokes per barrel). When I go up to 6 pokes, I'll use 3 barrells. My "Medical Supplier" knows me on a first name basis

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I get all my needles from the Needle Exchange. I stay in line with all the druggies and I get boxes of whatever I need for free. It looks pretty funny, all these skinny ass, pathetic looking excuses for humans, all drugged out and then this glorious,healthy looking bodybuilder in the middle of them BWAAHHAHHHAAAAAAA

Regarding the needles, I always use diff needles to draw with and to inj. You have to as the needle gets totally blunt when it goes through a rubber stopper.
 

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