Test base and Boldenone Base powders

[JM1219]

Hey,

I have access to Boldenone and Test base powders, I was wondering if I were to buy them would I need to add something to them before taking them to make them Cypionate or Ethanate etc. Its hard to word what I'm wanting to know. I know I'm going to have to reconstitute the Test and Boldenone in oil, but will I need to somehow add an 'ester' mollecule to them before injecting?

 

[deltaguy]

If you are able to purchase tne i would imagine that test e should be available as well....

 

[JM1219]

If you are able to purchase tne i would imagine that test e should be available as well....

Oh yeah, definitely but you can't beat 250mg/test week for 10 weeks only for 30-40$, which is what it would equate to.

 

[deltaguy]

why not run the tne for 10 weeks? i love tne.... you can micronize the powder and hit it with a 25g 1" so the ed pinning won't be so bad...

 

[JM1219]

Haha, sorry if I'm seeming a little dense here, but its because I am =D.
What is TNE. Is TNE the base test powder? And I'm assuming you would have to pin E/D since it has no esters attached to it?

 

[deltaguy]

Test no ester (TNE)

yes, you would have to pin everyday

I prefer it over any other test. if you start having side effects that are too unpleasant you can stop and it will be out of your system in approx 24hrs at most.

you can run as little 50mgs ed an hour or so before the gym and I think you will like the results.

 

[JM1219]

Test no ester (TNE)

yes, you would have to pin everyday

I prefer it over any other test. if you start having side effects that are too unpleasant you can stop and it will be out of your system in approx 24hrs at most.

you can run as little 50mgs ed an hour or so before the gym and I think you will like the results.

Wow, thats great! Thanks for the info, I'm sure the ED pinning gets old, but not too bad considering the small smount injected.
I bet this makes the timing for PCT to be much more simple also. Any advice for me? I'm pretty sure thats the route I'm going to take. I assume I should cycle injection spots heavily so I don't hit the same muscle more than once per week? Do results start coming sooner than say test eth or cyp? Would there be any benefit to doing this as a 'pulse' meaning 3 days per week preworkout. I would assume this wouldn't lead to any shutdown or need for much support work.
Also, does the same thing apply to the Boldenone powder? I also have Stanozolol powder, applications there?

 

[deltaguy]

PCT will still be normal PCT but will start 1 day or possibly 2 days after last injection depending on what time of day you workout (if you are hitting it before your gym time). I suggest 6 weeks of 20mgs a day unless you are going to get bloodwork to confirm your levels have returned to normal.

TNE is more powerful than any test with an ester... e.g. if you inject 100mgs of tne you are getting 100mgs of test as opposed to test e when you inject 100mgs you are actually only getting roughly 73mgs.... (someone please correct me if that number is wrong but it is def somewhere around that). It has a high level of aromitization into estrogen and of course coverts to DHT so keep those in mind as you contemplate your ancillaries. I take 10mgs of nolvadex ed during cycle and have not had gyno issues at all. Previously, I didn't use the nolvadex and have had gyno surgery due to it. But, too each his own.

I would rotate frequently with this. If you can micronize the powder (zero pain), you will be able to use a pretty small needle and therefore hit a lot of places comfortably e.g. delts (3 heads) tris (3 heads) bis (2 heads) quads (3 places on each outer sweep) chest (at least 2 places), etc....

 

[deltaguy]

Wow, thats great! Thanks for the info, I'm sure the ED pinning gets old, but not too bad considering the small smount injected.
I bet this makes the timing for PCT to be much more simple also. Any advice for me? I'm pretty sure thats the route I'm going to take. I assume I should cycle injection spots heavily so I don't hit the same muscle more than once per week? Do results start coming sooner than say test eth or cyp? Would there be any benefit to doing this as a 'pulse' meaning 3 days per week preworkout. I would assume this wouldn't lead to any shutdown or need for much support work.
Also, does the same thing apply to the Boldenone powder? I also have Stanozolol powder, applications there?

Shut will occur regardless.....

Just noticed the last 2 sentences... yes to both.

 

[VanR__]

Only get Boldenone with the Undecylenate ester. Prop and cyp made people sick.
Don't try to put test base in oil with anything more then 50mg/ml without supersolvent or EO.

^^If none of that made sense to you, you should not be brewing anything but tea...

 

[JM1219]

Only get Boldenone with the Undecylenate ester. Prop and cyp made people sick.
Don't try to put test base in oil with anything more then 50mg/ml without supersolvent or EO.

^^If none of that made sense to you, you should not be brewing anything but tea...

Thanks for all the help fellas. Yeah I knew that Boldenone has the Undencylenate ester attached to it when you buy it ready to inject, but I didn't know how to spell it from memory, I would have butchered it, lol. But no, the Bold powder I have access to doesn't have an Undencylenate ester attached, any way to make this so I can use it? I'm not sure if I'm down for all the aromatization and DHT problems possible associated with the Test powder as this is going to be my first cycle.

 

[VanR__]

as this is going to be my first cycle.

*sound of a record scratch going into total silence*

First cycle? Avoid no ester test. The dosing, the pain, the shot frequency, the shot-site mixing, don't do it. Losing some hair is last thing to worry about. TNE is a bad bitch.

 

[JM1219]

*sound of a record scratch going into total silence*

First cycle? Avoid no ester test. The dosing, the pain, the shot frequency, the shot-site mixing, don't do it. Losing some hair is last thing to worry about. TNE is a bad bitch.

Haha, thanks for the heads up bud. I was just looking for the most cost efficient way of doing my first cycle, and 55$ for 10grams is pretty dang hard to beat. I guess I'll have to step it up and pay 85$ for the Test E....
Oh well, thanks for the help.
I'm prepping for my second show and want to add something into the mix. I'm torn right now between a test/EQ cycle and just running PGCL for 4 weeks on 2-4 weeks off.

 

[muscledoc1]

TNE,IS GREAT-BUT DEFINITLY USE ED(AT LEAST 100MG./DAY-JUST WATCH FOR SIDES-LIKE DELTA MENTIONED)

 

[JM1219]

TNE,IS GREAT-BUT DEFINITLY USE ED(AT LEAST 100MG./DAY-JUST WATCH FOR SIDES-LIKE DELTA MENTIONED)

100mg/day....? Wow, thats 700mg/wk and by deltaguy's math thats equivalent to over 1gram of test eth/cyp.
For a more advanced user would you say that TNE is a better choice than other esterfied forms of test for mass/strength gains?

 

[muscledoc1]

100mg/day....? Wow, thats 700mg/wk and by deltaguy's math thats equivalent to over 1gram of test eth/cyp.
For a more advanced user would you say that TNE is a better choice than other esterfied forms of test for mass/strength gains?

for 6-7 weeks he should be fine,and yeah,it is a high dose-but the results are great!!

 

[deltaguy]

Fuck! Didn't realize this was your first cycle considering you were discussing home brewing and all. I would NOT do TNE for a first cycle. Even at the dose I recommended of 50mg eod you will still probably regret the choice.

Stick to test e at 250mgs per week to try a first cycle.

I know guys who grow like a fucking weed on that.