Test E/ Tren Ace/ EQ Cycle Help !

[thelix]

Hey everyone !

This will be my first Tren Ace cycle and I wanna make sure I am doing it right. Lot's of great experience in this forum on Tren so your expert advise in fine tuning my cycle is highly appreciated. The goal hear is to maximize muscle gains on a lean-bulk cycle with minimum bloat. Here it is:

Wk 1-12: Test E 500mg/w
Wk 1-12: EQ 400mg/w
Wk 1-4: dBol 50mg/day
Wk 5-10: Test Ace 75mg EoD
Wk 10-12: Oxandrolone 40mg/d
Wk 4-12: HCG 250ui 2xW
Wk 1-4: Adex 0.5mg/d (may run longer if the bloat comes)

PCT:
Wk 13-14: HCG 1500ui
Wk 13-16: Tamox 40/40/20/20
Wk 13-16: Clomid 100/50/50/50 (optional ???)

My Stats:
5-9", 170lbs, 11% BF

That gives a 6 weeks Tren A cycle toward the end. The intention is to bulk up in the beginning and then harden up towards the end of the cycle.

Thanks in advance...

 

[Bigblack]

Hey everyone !

This will be my first Tren Ace cycle and I wanna make sure I am doing it right. Lot's of great experience in this forum on Tren so your expert advise in fine tuning my cycle is highly appreciated. The goal hear is to maximize muscle gains on a lean-bulk cycle with minimum bloat. Here it is:

Wk 1-12: Test E 500mg/w
Wk 1-12: EQ 400mg/w
Wk 1-4: dBol 50mg/day
Wk 5-10: Test Ace 75mg EoD
Wk 10-12: Oxandrolone 40mg/d
Wk 4-12: HCG 250ui 2xW
Wk 1-4: Adex 0.5mg/d (may run longer if the bloat comes)

PCT:
Wk 13-14: HCG 1500ui
Wk 13-16: Tamox 40/40/20/20
Wk 13-16: Clomid 100/50/50/50 (optional ???)

My Stats:
5-9", 170lbs, 11% BF

That gives a 6 weeks Tren A cycle toward the end. The intention is to bulk up in the beginning and then harden up towards the end of the cycle.

Thanks in advance...

My changes would be:
Wk 1-12: Test E 250mg E3D
Wk 1-12: EQ 400mg/w Frontload on first injection
Wk 1-4 and 10-14: dBol 30mg/day
Wk 5-14: Tren Ace 37.5 ED
Wk 4-12: HCG 250ui 2xW
Wk 1-4: Adex 0.5mg/d (may run longer if the bloat comes) -Continue on adex throughout cycle

PCT:
Wk 15-19: Tamox 40/40/20/20

That being said, you dont really seem to have the "stats" to need such a cycle, or any cycle for that matter. It is also a longer cycle than I prefer, just in terms of recovery.

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

i dont think you'll see anything from 400mg eq week. from my experiece you need to run 600 bare minimum

 

[Quad-smack]

That being said, you dont really seem to have the "stats" to need such a cycle, or any cycle for that matter. It is also a longer cycle than I prefer, just in terms of recovery.

X2 - Until you get to 200lbs or so - 250 Test-E E3D, proper nutrition & some DC training will go a long, long way...
BTW, nice layout Bigblack.

 

[ozy20]

help

hey guys i didnt want to start anouther post since same kinda qustion my stats are

23
5,6
220 pounds
trained for about 7 years to 8
body fat i dont know i can still see my top 4 abs very well

cycles mostly just test and dbols befor and am wating to run tren ace and some test for next cycle to lean up for summer and if possibil gains some new muscle what would say to run it at and for how long thanks ...

 

[thelix]

My changes would be:
Wk 1-12: Test E 250mg E3D
Wk 1-12: EQ 400mg/w Frontload on first injection
Wk 1-4 and 10-14: dBol 30mg/day
Wk 5-14: Tren Ace 37.5 ED
Wk 4-12: HCG 250ui 2xW
Wk 1-4: Adex 0.5mg/d (may run longer if the bloat comes) -Continue on adex throughout cycle

PCT:
Wk 15-19: Tamox 40/40/20/20

That being said, you dont really seem to have the "stats" to need such a cycle, or any cycle for that matter. It is also a longer cycle than I prefer, just in terms of recovery.

Thanks bro...a few question on your suggestions:

- why take dBol at the end since it usually does not bring great quality gains ?
- on the Tren A, dont we finish it 2 weeks before TestE to avoid the crash ?
- Is Tamox only enough for PCT ? No HCG or Clomid needed ?

On my stats, yep I am a really hard gainers, but have a few cycles on my belt with Sus, Deca, dBol, Slin, T3, hGH, Winny and IFG. I just finished a 4 week IGF LR3 cycle, loosing 6lbs or fat on it. Also, have been training on negatives to up-regulate my androgen receptor and be ready for good gains with this cycle here.

 

[thelix]

i dont think you'll see anything from 400mg eq week. from my experiece you need to run 600 bare minimum

Is that true even for a 170lb guy ? It will be mixed with TestE so I figured I wouldn't need to go full 600mg/w

 

[Bigblack]

Thanks bro...a few question on your suggestions:

- why take dBol at the end since it usually does not bring great quality gains ?
- on the Tren A, dont we finish it 2 weeks before TestE to avoid the crash ?
- Is Tamox only enough for PCT ? No HCG or Clomid needed ?

On my stats, yep I am a really hard gainers, but have a few cycles on my belt with Sus, Deca, dBol, Slin, T3, hGH, Winny and IFG. I just finished a 4 week IGF LR3 cycle, loosing 6lbs or fat on it. Also, have been training on negatives to up-regulate my androgen receptor and be ready for good gains with this cycle here.

1) You will still have decent levels of strong AAS in your system while your body "tapers off" the long estered steroids. This synergism should lead to some decent gains. Dianabol is also great for a boost in gym performance, which usually begins to lack in the two weeks "off". It will also provide enough estrogen for the trenbolone.
2) The two weeks off, your body will still certainly be suppressed, so why not use them to make gains? The acetate ester clears so quickly it will still be "out" before the long estered ones are completely out.
3) If you use HcG during cycle your testes will be well functioning. Only the pituitary will need to be "waked up". I would also use a low dose of aromasin during PCT.

The only thing that is proven to significantly up regulate the AR is more muscle mass. Which is what you should get first, JMO.

 

[jackdiggler]

I think it looks fine, even though this is against the rules

 

[thelix]

I think it looks fine, even though this is against the rules

Against rules ???

 

[thelix]

1) You will still have decent levels of strong AAS in your system while your body "tapers off" the long estered steroids. This synergism should lead to some decent gains. Dianabol is also great for a boost in gym performance, which usually begins to lack in the two weeks "off". It will also provide enough estrogen for the trenbolone.
2) The two weeks off, your body will still certainly be suppressed, so why not use them to make gains? The acetate ester clears so quickly it will still be "out" before the long estered ones are completely out.
3) If you use HcG during cycle your testes will be well functioning. Only the pituitary will need to be "waked up". I would also use a low dose of aromasin during PCT.

The only thing that is proven to significantly up regulate the AR is more muscle mass. Which is what you should get first, JMO.

Thanks again for taking the time to explain it. It all makes good sense to me. I appreciated.

On the aromasin during PCT, could I use Adex instead ? What is the benefit of using aromasin over Adex in this case ?