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Test + Eq, question about frontload and AI

AmsterdamFreak1295

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Hello all and thanks in advance for helping me:)

I'm planning to start my second cycle, FIRST cycle was Test/Dbol:

1 – 10: 500mg test enthanate/E3D
1 – 4: 20mg Dianabol

1 – 12: 0.25mg arimdex ED

PCT
13 – 100mg clomid/40 mg novla
14 –50mg clomid/ 20 mg novla
15 – 50mg clomid/20 mg novla

Other supplements during cycle:
Milk thistle for liver support
Saw Palmetto: Week 1 – 3: 1 x tab ED. Week 3-10: 2 tabs ED
Creatin after PCT

Experience with this cycle: I had a feeling I'm very prone to gyno, right from the gecko. So kept the dianabol dosages low, but after 3 weeks with 20mg i started to get realy sore nipples and hard lumps in each pec. So I stopped the dbol after 3 weeks and upped the AI to 0.5mg ED for one week, cleared up quite fast (should have kept some extra nolva on hand to take aswell)
After week 8 I started to get a real bad cold and my tendons were not happy (probably from the increased poundage I was putting on my body).

I went from 190lbs to 220lbs in a 10 week period

Stats:
Age: 22 years old
Height: 182cm - 5'9ft.
Weight: 211lbs (96kg)
BF: 14-15%
Goals: Compete in 2014
How long lifting: 4 years
What does your diet look like : around 4000calories 40%protein 40% carbs 20% fat.
What do your workouts look like: 4day split with low intensity cardio each day
# of cycles: 1 previous cycle
when do you wake up: 07:00 AM
when do you go to bed: 11:00 PM
Can and cannot eat (times): Can eat all day, and night meal.
When do you lift (days of week and time of day): Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday/Saturday
time for cardio: Everyday, all day.
previous injuries : Rotator cuff problem in my right shoulder, and a knee injury(plica-syndrome).

Planned cycle + PCT:
1-18 500mg Test Enth EW
1-17 400mg EQ EW


1-19 Letrozole 0.625mg ed?
HCG:
3-8 250iu E4D (Monday,Friday, Then Tuesday etc.)
2 week break
11-16 250iu E4D (Monday,Friday, Then Tuesday etc.)

Other supplements during cycle:
Saw Palmetto: 1-10: 2 tabs ED
Creatin after PCT


My questions:

1) I only managed to get my hands on some letrozole, so how should I go forwards using this as my AI? Wait to see if I get bloated or any gyno symptoms? Feeling conserned that it can destroy my joints if I use it from day 1.

2) Should I frontload? I don't plan on doing any kicker so should I do 1g Tet/800mg EQ for the first 2 weeks?

3) I have enough to run 600mg/week with the EQ, should I wait and see if 400mg is enough for me or jump straight into it? If yes, how should my test look?
 

Superbeast668

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Hello all and thanks in advance for helping me:)

I'm planning to start my second cycle, FIRST cycle was Test/Dbol:

1 – 10: 500mg test enthanate/E3D
1 – 4: 20mg Dianabol

1 – 12: 0.25mg arimdex ED

PCT
13 – 100mg clomid/40 mg novla
14 –50mg clomid/ 20 mg novla
15 – 50mg clomid/20 mg novla

Other supplements during cycle:
Milk thistle for liver support
Saw Palmetto: Week 1 – 3: 1 x tab ED. Week 3-10: 2 tabs ED
Creatin after PCT

Experience with this cycle: I had a feeling I'm very prone to gyno, right from the gecko. So kept the dianabol dosages low, but after 3 weeks with 20mg i started to get realy sore nipples and hard lumps in each pec. So I stopped the dbol after 3 weeks and upped the AI to 0.5mg ED for one week, cleared up quite fast (should have kept some extra nolva on hand to take aswell)
After week 8 I started to get a real bad cold and my tendons were not happy (probably from the increased poundage I was putting on my body).

I went from 190lbs to 220lbs in a 10 week period

Stats:
Age: 22 years old
Height: 182cm - 5'9ft.
Weight: 211lbs (96kg)
BF: 14-15%
Goals: Compete in 2014
How long lifting: 4 years
What does your diet look like : around 4000calories 40%protein 40% carbs 20% fat.
What do your workouts look like: 4day split with low intensity cardio each day
# of cycles: 1 previous cycle
when do you wake up: 07:00 AM
when do you go to bed: 11:00 PM
Can and cannot eat (times): Can eat all day, and night meal.
When do you lift (days of week and time of day): Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday/Saturday
time for cardio: Everyday, all day.
previous injuries : Rotator cuff problem in my right shoulder, and a knee injury(plica-syndrome).

Planned cycle + PCT:
1-18 500mg Test Enth EW
1-17 400mg EQ EW


1-19 Letrozole 0.625mg ed?
HCG:
3-8 250iu E4D (Monday,Friday, Then Tuesday etc.)
2 week break
11-16 250iu E4D (Monday,Friday, Then Tuesday etc.)

Other supplements during cycle:
Saw Palmetto: 1-10: 2 tabs ED
Creatin after PCT


My questions:

1) I only managed to get my hands on some letrozole, so how should I go forwards using this as my AI? Wait to see if I get bloated or any gyno symptoms? Feeling conserned that it can destroy my joints if I use it from day 1.

2) Should I frontload? I don't plan on doing any kicker so should I do 1g Tet/800mg EQ for the first 2 weeks?

3) I have enough to run 600mg/week with the EQ, should I wait and see if 400mg is enough for me or jump straight into it? If yes, how should my test look?
Keep letro incase of emergency bro. Get on a research chem site and get you some adex or exemestane.

IMO get short esters of test and eq (prop/tne, and bne/bold prop)and front load that way. Eq has some interesting anxiety sides, and it takes a while to clear so I wouldn't pump my self full of large doses on a long estered drug. Either that or just kick start with an oral.

As far as the eq dose, again I'd start at 400. Wait a few weeks. No adverse sides, go ahead and increase the dose. I like to keep my test doses low, I feel better and I don't try to fuck everything with a hole. 500 should be sufficient.
 

AmsterdamFreak1295

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Keep letro incase of emergency bro. Get on a research chem site and get you some adex or exemestane.

IMO get short esters of test and eq (prop/tne, and bne/bold prop)and front load that way. Eq has some interesting anxiety sides, and it takes a while to clear so I wouldn't pump my self full of large doses on a long estered drug. Either that or just kick start with an oral.

As far as the eq dose, again I'd start at 400. Wait a few weeks. No adverse sides, go ahead and increase the dose. I like to keep my test doses low, I feel better and I don't try to fuck everything with a hole. 500 should be sufficient.
Thanks for the quick response Superbeast668 :)

In my country I have no source that can give me aromasin/arimidex. I could try getting it from a EU source, knowing that the costumes are hard here and alot of supplieres don't offer resend policy to this country.

Was planning on running tbol as a kicker, but found it not to be worth my money when the cost is around 630USD for 250 tabs...

I'll stick with 400mg then :)
 

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