This seems to simple ? Bulking diet

[Gunsmith]

Was talking with a guy at worktoday who used to compete some 20yrs ago , still a big guy and still in decient shape. We were disscussing dieting and drug differances between now and then and so on. The topping came up about if I was goning to do an off season bulking diet , I said no mostlikely not as I'm happy where i am size wise and we disscussed that.

He basic theory is that for a good bulking diet you use simple math and your lean body weight to figure out the cals , BWx2 for protein , BWx1 for carbs and BWx.5 for fats

example , if your reaosnbly lean at 250lbs you would need
500g protein
250g carbs
125gr fats

Stating that you get your fats from whole dairy , red meat and nuts , your carbs from complex sources like oats and grains and the protein from meat mostly.
he says its pretty easy to adsjust the fats up or down by adjusting what kind of beef you eat (ie-80% , 91% and 95%) , he reccomended eating beef with each meal also

Anybody every use a thought process like this setting up their diet and it work well for them?

Granted its been 20+ years since this fella has competed but from the pics and stories I've seen and heard he was doing somthing right

 

[Dave_19]

A protocol like that could work, but I'm sure it would be far from "Ideal". The body is not so simple to create just one rule per macro to achieve the best diet for you. Your Cals should fluctuate even when bulking based on the demand you put on your body. Non training days for example you should be consuming much less than training days. 500g of protein for many guys even 250lbs would not be utilized under many conditions & factors. Its nice to have a basic base and set of rules even when bulking or lean bulking. You should always maintain flexibility and eat off of "feel" when dieting with such little restrictions. I like to set a range that cannot go over in body fat when bulking or lean bulking. It may be different for every one but I personally like staying within the 7-10% range. It just is not necessary to go any higher in body fat to gain LBM.

 

[Gunsmith]

I figured it would be far from ideal especialy for sombody who is endomorphic and only traines 3-4 days a week , seems like a good way to get fat.

from the reading i've been doing it seems that a carb cycling method would be a pretty good way to do a bulking style diet.

I just thought it was neat to talk with this guy about the older ways of dieting and training , also the doses of drugs they ran , his favorite cycle was 400mg/test/wk , 400mg Deca/kw and 50mg injectible D-Bol/ed , for shows he would drop the D-bol 6 weeks out and replace with winstrol at 100mg/ED !!!

 

[chris250]

I figured it would be far from ideal especialy for sombody who is endomorphic and only traines 3-4 days a week , seems like a good way to get fat.

from the reading i've been doing it seems that a carb cycling method would be a pretty good way to do a bulking style diet.

I just thought it was neat to talk with this guy about the older ways of dieting and training , also the doses of drugs they ran , his favorite cycle was 400mg/test/wk , 400mg Deca/kw and 50mg injectible D-Bol/ed , for shows he would drop the D-bol 6 weeks out and replace with winstrol at 100mg/ED !!!

the cycle seems simple enough...got any pics of him...what shows did he do or win..Just curious

 

[Gunsmith]

I'll see if I can dig up any pics of him , i think he did his last show in 85-86. dont think he every went any further than just local stuff , stayed in great shape none the less