Tren Stomach Pain

[heavyhitter]

Im trying to find the study specifically regarding tren. But we can still use these studies and the high androgenicity of Tren online to extrapolate that this is the reason for “Tren digestion”

 

[heavyhitter]

now a days it seems like microdosing with the right combo of variables - test, anabolic, slin, and or gh is a better bet. perhaps an emeric sized 10mg dose of dianabol or anavar to spice things up while on cycle. I am getting old, I cant run all the same shit I used to. Low dose test, low dose tren, smart slin, oral here and there and I am good. I cant run more than 300mg of deca or 300mg of eq without sides, masteron makes me look great but feel shitty, perhaps its time for primo

I ran 800 mgs a week for like 20 weeks at one point when I was younger with ZERO noticeable negative effects other than a little trouble sleeping. These days 150 mgs a week spread out over 3-4 doses absolutely tanks my digestion inside of about a week and a half. Test however has zero negative sides for me even at extreme doses. Deca is the same

 

[heavyhitter]

Some say taking a daily large amount of L- glutamine can help with stomach issues. Some say taking magnesium before bed can help with insomnia and night sweats. If magnesium doesn't help the insomnia, Xanax and some simple carbs will get you to sleep.

Yes. Tren affects the lining of the stomach and high dose glutamine is very protective of the stomach lining. So this can help in some people

 

[RDS]

Interesting stuff, guys. I’m going to drop the tren for now; the whole point of this cycle is to grow and if my appetite gets any worse I’ll not be able to eat at all.

I might revisit tren in the future next time I cut, but tren and bulking is definitely not for me.

 

[Reno911]

It's the Tren E. I have the same issue. I used to be able to run E or Hex no problem and now it tears my stomach up just like A Bombs and D Bol. 7-9 days in I can't even eat a tasty broiled walleye and baked potato- just sit there and stare at it. If you're dead set on keeping the tren in, switch to Acetate at about 20 mg a day and work up and see how you feel.

Once the Tren E esters clear your appetite should bounce back.

 

[heavyhitter]

Interesting stuff, guys. I’m going to drop the tren for now; the whole point of this cycle is to grow and if my appetite gets any worse I’ll not be able to eat at all.

I might revisit tren in the future next time I cut, but tren and bulking is definitely not for me.

Contest prep is the only time I’ll use a bit of Tren since the lack of appetite can be a good thing for curbing cravings

 

[NovaPharma]

Steroids, stress and the gut microbiome-brain axis

Steroids, stress and the gut microbiome-brain axis - PubMed

It is becoming well established that the gut microbiome has a profound impact on human health and disease. In this review, we explore how steroids can influence the gut microbiota and, in turn, how the gut microbiota can influence hormone levels. Within the context of the gut microbiome-brain...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.00338.2019

Have you read this completely? A little busy can you post the most important insight information on this? As a summary much appreciated thank you .

 

[danieltx]

I don't know if this will work for everyone, but this is what solved tren heartburn for me.

Last year during my growing phase I started taking a probiotic twice a day and have continued to since. That's the only change in the last year supplement-wise related to my gut. This year when dieting I used tren like I always do, and my heartburn was 99% reduced. In the past I'd take 6-8 Tums per day, but this year I only took like 4 the whole time I was dieting.

I can't correlate anything besides the probiotic to eliminating the heartburn. The rest of my supplements and diet have been the same.

 

[heavyhitter]

I don't know if this will work for everyone, but this is what solved tren heartburn for me.

Last year during my growing phase I started taking a probiotic twice a day and have continued to since. That's the only change in the last year supplement-wise related to my gut. This year when dieting I used tren like I always do, and my heartburn was 99% reduced. In the past I'd take 6-8 Tums per day, but this year I only took like 4 the whole time I was dieting.

I can't correlate anything besides the probiotic to eliminating the heartburn. The rest of my supplements and diet have been the same.

Yes probiotic use can be extremely helpful. I would also recommend supplementing with saccharomyces boulardii

 

[NovaPharma]

I don't know if this will work for everyone, but this is what solved tren heartburn for me.

Last year during my growing phase I started taking a probiotic twice a day and have continued to since. That's the only change in the last year supplement-wise related to my gut. This year when dieting I used tren like I always do, and my heartburn was 99% reduced. In the past I'd take 6-8 Tums per day, but this year I only took like 4 the whole time I was dieting.

I can't correlate anything besides the probiotic to eliminating the heartburn. The rest of my supplements and diet have been the same.

Which probiotic? Brand? Dosage?

 

[heavyhitter]

Have you read this completely? A little busy can you post the most important insight information on this? As a summary much appreciated thank you .

My takeaway from several studies is that steroids can be hepatotoxic, cause biliary stasis, and because of these can disrupt the gut biome due to these and other actions. There was an article I found that I can’t seem to locate again that pointed towards Trenbolone being particularly effective at causing these reactions. It seems that the effects on the adrenal system are a large part of the stomach pain and discomfort some can get

 

[NovaPharma]

Anybody also had any intense indigestion w Anavar 40-60mg’s ran months on?

Having some serious issues took out tren just stopped anavar trying to pinpoint problem.

 

[heavyhitter]

Anybody also had any intense indigestion w Anavar 40-60mg’s ran months on?

Having some serious issues took out tren just stopped anavar trying to pinpoint problem.

Any oral steroids cause indigestion, acid reflux, and stomach pain for me.

 

[NovaPharma]

Any oral steroids cause indigestion, acid reflux, and stomach pain for me.

Agreed 50mg of dianabol for a week and I’ll be throwing up every single day.

Did not think Anavar would make it this bad though nothing compared to Dbol though.

 

[danieltx]

Which probiotic? Brand? Dosage?

Dr. Ohirra's professional formula. 1 cap with breakfast, 1 with my last meal. I cut back to just 1 with breakfast towards the end of my diet since I wasn't eating that much but will bring it back to 2 on this rebound.

 

[Muay Thai]

Yes. Tren affects the lining of the stomach and high dose glutamine is very protective of the stomach lining. So this can help in some people

slippery elm also helps the intestinal mucosal lining

 

[heavyhitter]

slippery elm also helps the intestinal mucosal lining

You know I was gonna mention that. Same with deglycerhizinated licorice extract and marshmallow root

 

[Muay Thai]

Any oral steroids cause indigestion, acid reflux, and stomach pain for me.

man i think its a safe bet to say i am right there with you in 9/10 of your posts and experiences.

You know I was gonna mention that. Same with deglycerhizinated licorice extract and marshmallow root

DGL works great! yes i have read that about marshmallow do you have experience? they sell it cheap on amazon. I have yet to try the marshmallow, always good input my brother A+

 

[heavyhitter]

man i think its a safe bet to say i am right there with you in 9/10 of your posts and experiences.

DGL works great! yes i have read that about marshmallow do you have experience? they sell it cheap on amazon. I have yet to try the marshmallow, always good input my brother A+

Ive definitely learned a few things from your posts too since it seems our digestive issues are so similar. The s. Boullardii has really been making a difference for me since seeing your post. Have tou ever tried a round of rifaxamin? That definitely got me some relief from my original massive issues. I haven’t had the extreme vomiting or diarrhea that I was having on a 2-3 times weekly basis

I have used marshmallow root. It does help. It seems to coat the contents of your bowels a bit and help it move through easier. And has a bit of a pepto bismol like effect on the stomach. It can definitely help ease some discomfort. Ive used literally everything imaginable to try to help my stomach issues. Here’s a few and they all work to some degree
Peppermint oil(very effective for gas and bloating....but make sure and take with a bit of food or swallow thoroughly with water as it’s not fun coming back up with a burp)
Marshmallow root, DGL, probiotics, prebiotics, s. Bouilardii, fermented foods like kimchi and saurkraut, simethicone for gas, digestive bitters, digestive enzymes, bromelain, ginger capsules, turmeric capsules, Manuka honey, glutamine, Artichoke leaf extract, fennel and fennel extract, and probably a few other things I’m forgetting. I’m sure liver support supps like tudca can help mitigate some of the indigestion that comes from liver toxicity from some steroids as well

 

[RDS]

Well things took a dramatic turn last night - stomach pain went from bad to worse and ended up in an entire night of explosive diarrhoea!

Tren and I are done forever! No way i’m Going through that again