TRT advice.

GSXR · Sep 12, 2009

My test levels has always been on the low side. I finished my last small cycle in June, I had my blood works done in August, and everything was fine, except for my test levels which was 150

. No wonder I lose my gains after a cycle. I did a decent PCT, HCG you name it, didn't do anything for me. The doc took blood again yesterday to check my Cortisol, Prolactin, and he said if that is in place he will put me on TRT. Can it just be that I was still shut down from the cycle, and should hold off a bit? My sex drive is very low, and I am tired, but otherwise I function 100%.

I really want to bulk up, and I do achieve my goals every time with juice, but with a test level of 150 it's impossible to keep the gains. Is TRT the way to go?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

maldorf · Sep 12, 2009

GSXR said:
My test levels has always been on the low side. I finished my last small cycle in June, I had my blood works done in August, and everything was fine, except for my test levels which was 150 . No wonder I lose my gains after a cycle. I did a decent PCT, HCG you name it, didn't do anything for me. The doc took blood again yesterday to check my Cortisol, Prolactin, and he said if that is in place he will put me on TRT. Can it just be that I was still shut down from the cycle, and should hold off a bit? My sex drive is very low, and I am tired, but otherwise I function 100%.

I really want to bulk up, and I do achieve my goals every time with juice, but with a test level of 150 it's impossible to keep the gains. Is TRT the way to go?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

2 months is nowhere near how long it will take you to recover. I think that he is too aggressive and should have you wait at least 6 months. I know it sounds terrible to suffer that long, but you might recover. Some swear it might even take 1 year. I personally waited a bit over 6 months with no recovery at all. In fact my LH levels dropped to the point where they were below measurable limits and my total test was around 90 or so.
How old are you?

GSXR · Sep 12, 2009

maldorf said:
2 months is nowhere near how long it will take you to recover. I think that he is too aggressive and should have you wait at least 6 months. I know it sounds terrible to suffer that long, but you might recover. Some swear it might even take 1 year. I personally waited a bit over 6 months with no recovery at all. In fact my LH levels dropped to the point where they were below measurable limits and my total test was around 90 or so.
How old are you?

I agree with you, and I really think I will bounce back...

I am 29y/o currently 194 @ 5'9 I dropped about 11lb since I stopped my cycle, but think I can maintain it from here.

How do one go about keeping the weight, and size, if you come off a cycle, and have a test level of 150 for say the next 6 month?

I really want to avoid the TRT route if I can.

maldorf · Sep 12, 2009

GSXR said:
I agree with you, and I really think I will bounce back...

I am 29y/o currently 194 @ 5'9 I dropped about 11lb since I stopped my cycle, but think I can maintain it from here.

How do one go about keeping the weight, and size, if you come off a cycle, and have a test level of 150 for say the next 6 month?

I really want to avoid the TRT route if I can.

Is he testing your LH and FSH too?

As far as maintaining what you have its going to be very hard. All you can do is keep training as hard as you can and eat right. Really now magic treatment i can think of. I know that humanofort might help.Some others on here might have some supplement advice, but I personally dont feel like any of it works. Humanofort though is one that is good. Emeric on here is a great source for help on this subject and he helps a lot of us on here. Ask him for some advice.

GSXR · Sep 12, 2009

maldorf said:
Is he testing your LH and FSH too?

As far as maintaining what you have its going to be very hard. All you can do is keep training as hard as you can and eat right. Really now magic treatment i can think of. I know that humanofort might help.Some others on here might have some supplement advice, but I personally dont feel like any of it works. Humanofort though is one that is good. Emeric on here is a great source for help on this subject and he helps a lot of us on here. Ask him for some advice.

Yes, he is testing my LH, and FSH too, results should be back on Monday.

Thank you very much for you help. I really appreciate it. I think I am just going to tell him I am going to hold off for a few months, and get tested again.

As for maintaining, I will keep on working hard at it...

I will also look into humanofort.

Thanks again

taslajrisi · Sep 13, 2009

you should bounce back

At 29 you should bounce back. There are a lot of schools of thought on pct but one thing you need to make sure of is that your prolactin level is not too high because this will keep you shut down. Clomid 100mg for one week is enough to see if your LH/FSH will fire up or not. Cortisol also is a killer. The pituitary is easier to get to fire than the testicles if shut down. Need to get estrodiol, prolactin, cortisol down to the low side. You may need to shock the testes with higher dose HCG for a couple weeks and continue with SERMS. I went thru all this and then finally threw in the towel and am on doctor prescribed HRT right now but I'm 42 so i don't mind. I thought why spend all the $$ on ancilliaries just to get my test level to low end normal, i'd rather be in the optimal range all the time 800-1200. I took 10 years off from 27 to 37 and it took like 18 months for me to feel "normal" but even then, I don't think my baseline test levels were ever very high probably on the low end of the range. I feel a lot better now as I do not crash my test level.

ENraged · Sep 13, 2009

Well you could go on TRT just for the cheap meds all the while waiting for your results come back.
just to get legal and stock pile your meds while you wait for yourself to maybe bounce back. .

GSXR · Sep 14, 2009

taslajrisi said:
At 29 you should bounce back. There are a lot of schools of thought on pct but one thing you need to make sure of is that your prolactin level is not too high because this will keep you shut down. Clomid 100mg for one week is enough to see if your LH/FSH will fire up or not. Cortisol also is a killer. The pituitary is easier to get to fire than the testicles if shut down. Need to get estrodiol, prolactin, cortisol down to the low side. You may need to shock the testes with higher dose HCG for a couple weeks and continue with SERMS. I went thru all this and then finally threw in the towel and am on doctor prescribed HRT right now but I'm 42 so i don't mind. I thought why spend all the $$ on ancilliaries just to get my test level to low end normal, i'd rather be in the optimal range all the time 800-1200. I took 10 years off from 27 to 37 and it took like 18 months for me to feel "normal" but even then, I don't think my baseline test levels were ever very high probably on the low end of the range. I feel a lot better now as I do not crash my test level.

I really think if I go the TRT route I will see better results, since my test level will always be in a good range, as you said. But do I really need it? Probably not, will I bounce back? I believe so.

I am thinking about this a lot, and I would love to be huge, don't we all, and as I stated above I get myself to a decent size, where I am happy with a small cycle. I am 5'9, and I usually get up to 210, but as soon as I get off I go back to 193ish, and I still train hard, and try to eat as much, but with my test levels at 150 for say 6 months, it's not possible to maintain my weight or size.

Also, I am suppose to get the results of everything that you have stated above today.

ENraged said:
Well you could go on TRT just for the cheap meds all the while waiting for your results come back.
just to get legal and stock pile your meds while you wait for yourself to maybe bounce back. .

I guess if I start TRT it will be for good, but I am having second thoughts, since this is not something that I should take lightly.