Ugl vs pharma question

[lifter]

PS -I dont know about the original question if you rule out PIP about how you feel with the same level of testosterone values on bloods ugl vs pharma. A lot of how you feel really depends on many circumstances, like diet, training, use of other drugs, issues like depression, how much sleep you get, etc...

I can remember pulling bloods when my levels were over 3,500 total T with UGL test cyp. I was actually expecting my totals to come back low for my dosing protocol (600 mg/week) because of the way I felt. I certainly did not feel like I was at 3,500 total T, I felt almost the same as I did at 1,800 total T

 

[specter]

What about a vial of test sitting around for a few years?
I have heard that carbolic acid can be the culprit for UGL vials that have sat around for years.

I know from personal experience that I can use a pharma vial of test even up to 7 years later and no PIP. With UGL vials, some give me major PIP when trying in present time but the same batch vials (from same order) from a few years ago gave me no issues when I first got them.

The above leads me to believe there are some differences.

Dont know about that, ill ask my chemist guy next time we talk. But as i understand your question, according to you carbolic acid would form in the vial over time ? in ugl´s but not in HG vials ?

 

[lifter]

Dont know about that, ill ask my chemist guy next time we talk. But as i understand your question, according to you carbolic acid would form in the vial over time ? in ugl´s but not in HG vials ?

I believe that is how I saw it explained.

It was along the lines of based on the raws along with solvents and percentages used that UGL test can develop carbolic acid (or more carbolic acid compared to Pharma) which in turn can lead to PIP.

Whether just prescribed or seven years old, I can say that pharma test has never given me PIP.

 

[JMAC 21]

I use both for trt interchangeably. Test C from Walgreens and some from a sponsor here. Same dose - no difference.

As far as PIP and "smoothness", I find the UGL to be far superior to pharma.