Ultimate PED stack for Middle Aged men

maxmusle1 · Jan 31, 2023

He used to use primo 300mg but switched to nandrolone because of (primo being bad twice and legality)

This is My old man’s blend: (below) using a 1ml BD Luer Lock syringe(boxes of 100), a 20-22g draw needle to pull from three separate vials, then attach needle gauge/length based on injection site. Rotating Bilaterally at these sites : Glute, VG, Delts, Quads; a person only injects near same area every 40 days!
optional BD 1ml luer lock 5/8”-1.5” pins*
His Sample Injection Schedule: Every 5-7 days

1/5ml or 20u test undecanoate 250 - 50mg*
1/3ml or 35u test cypionate/enanthate 300 - 100mg*
1/4ml or 25u deca 300 - 75mg*
Daily orals - 5mg Cialis
Proviron - 25mg split dose
2iu rHGH sub-q
Advanced TRT blend is

*{80 units on slin pin or a little over .8 line on 3ml syringe}*

So every 5-7 days you get (150 tests/75mg Deca total w GH w lil Provi and 5mg Cialis
He used to use metformin but switched to :
NMN/Transresveratrol/Berberine HCL combo plus Organ Protection Supps.

marssel · Jan 31, 2023

Big Dave Smith said:
Lately I’ve been doing EOD for everything, just so I don’t have to remember to jab every day.

When I’m cruising/TRT, it’s 45-60mg EOD with no AI. If I do need to use an AI, it seems to be very temporary. I still have to dose it low, around 5.0mg-7.5mg of Arom the day after my shot.

When I was younger, I was super duper estrogen sensitive. Now that I’m older, it’s the opposite. If I look at Aromasin or take too much mast or primo, I feel like the tin man. When estrogen gets back fo normal, I have zero issues.

I assume your labs are all still good from your original 2020 post, you said older but if you said how old I never read it.

Big Dave Smith · Feb 1, 2023

marssel said:
I assume your labs are all still good from your original 2020 post, you said older but if you said how old I never read it.

I’m 38. Not old, but old enough to be careful.

Blood work usually looks good. The only thing that usually dings me is low HDL. It seems like no matter what I do, my HDL is never great. Ratio is okay while on TRT, but takes a dip when I cycle.

goback2013 · Feb 1, 2023

Big Dave Smith said:
I’m 38. Not old, but old enough to be careful.

Blood work usually looks good. The only thing that usually dings me is low HDL. It seems like no matter what I do, my HDL is never great. Ratio is okay while on TRT, but takes a dip when I cycle.

Do you roll and spar every day ?
I try to keep up with my boxing at the end of my weight lifting days but some days I'm just fried.
I'm almost 50yo.

Big Dave Smith · Feb 1, 2023

goback2013 said:
Do you roll and spar every day ?
I try to keep up with my boxing at the end of my weight lifting days but some days I'm just fried.
I'm almost 50yo.

BJJ 2-3 days a week now. Lifting 4-5 days. Never usually on the same day due to time constraints.

Ranchhand · Feb 1, 2023

Very nice thread for the middle-aged guys, read through all 8 pages of posts this morning.

Zuespas said:
I’m 40 and I what I’ve learned over the years is to drop anything that’s gonna get you unhealthy. I run longer cycles at lower doses with milder compounds. It keeps me in the game longer.

I use a max of 500mg if test in any cycle to avoid the need for AI, I don’t use orals at all. And I pretty much stick to test, primo, mast. I’ll use deca and sometimes eq but very cautiously.

I also try to keep total AAS mg at 1000mg or less on a blast

In my 50's now and these are pretty much the exact rules I live by now

lifter · Feb 1, 2023

Interesting thread.

marssel · Feb 2, 2023

Big Dave Smith said:
I’m 38. Not old, but old enough to be careful.

Blood work usually looks good. The only thing that usually dings me is low HDL. It seems like no matter what I do, my HDL is never great. Ratio is okay while on TRT, but takes a dip when I cycle.

Bro my HDl has been under 20 since I started bodybuilding naturally well it went from 30 as a Marine doing only Marine shit (push ups pul ups swim run run run) started bb and dropped to 20 on AAS 15 got on heavy citrus bergamot and crazy amounts of omegas even in my mid 20s yes and same as you total cholesterol under 100 but HDL usually 17, doc says you exercise, don’t drink, don’t smoke don’t sweat it. I weigh a good bit too and I said I’m gonna try and get back under 200 lbs and she said do what you do your markers r good BP is ok do your best but don’t stress.