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Vander V ... from JJ

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Well, it seems the thread got locked before i had a chance to answer.
So, please allow this post and then lock it... its only fair i get to reply... after all this is "America" ... right? I still have the right to voice my opinion.

First off, why is this post to “JJ and Bla bla bal”
I feel “special” but I am not the only person that does not believe your Bushisum bullshit. Although do have the balls to speak up.
Now.. I could care less about your “friend of a cousin’s sisters boyfriend’s best friends aunts next door neighbor” who you SAY works at the pentagon.
What does that have to do with 9/11? There are plenty of people who work there that have no clue what went on.

Now… lets get down to business:
Your answer:
“1. The US had warnings but no specific dates, times or places. There was plenty of chatter about this but never anything about using our planes as bombs.”

JJ’s reply:
**** http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm ***
Norad had done many drills involving AIRLINERS and WASHINTON and NEW York.
The jets that hit those buildings where in the air for 1 hour and 20 minutes (off there flight pattern and already set off red flags) and NO NORAD jets where EVER deployed to intercept them. They where never more then 9 MINUTES from each air craft.
Explain that? Lets say that DIDN’T know the exact date ect… but an hour and a half it PLENTY of warning wouldn’t you think? Especially for on of the MOST protected buildings in the world … THE PENTAGON.

Your answer:
“2. It was Ashcroft's peragative to stop flying commercial if he chooses to do so. After all, he is head of the the entire Justice Dept., so for security reasons, it was probably a good idea. He could be a target and possibly endanger other people flying on commercial airlines. Hey....you can stop flying commercial too, if you really want to. Anyone can fly privately.”

JJ’s Reply:
***Bro, anyone can STOP flying commercially … but everyone does not have the “INSIGHT” and INFORMATION that Ashcroft has. Did you read the question?
It says he “cited a unidentified threat”…. Hmmmm.. would “anyone” be able to do that with out being able to obtain his level of “intelligence” information?***

Your answer:
3. We didn't know it was going to hit the Pentagon until it did.

JJ’S reply:
*** What a fucking joke? We didn’t know it was going to hit the Pentagon? We do a zillion fucking “practice” missions to protect that building every year. Its one of the MOST protected buildings in the US …. The planes where off course and in the air for an hour and a half and one of the HEADED right toward the PENTAGON but we didn’t know it was headed there? So.. if that is the case, where does all that money for “defence spending” and “security” go? Does the CIA just sit around with binocular and wait on something to get “close” to the pentagon … then call it in? Bwahahaha.
There are a zillion fucking security cameras on that building….. 3 gas stations across the road from the pentagon with security cameras aimed DIRECTELY at the point of impact… but NO ONE HAS A PICTURE? Ok… enough said.

Your answer:
4.GW stayed in that classroom so as to not panic and cause alarm and act hastily. He knew that his "people" were gathering facts and of course, he was not planning to stay. Keep in mind the context of where he was, in a classroom with small children. He acted bravely and presidential. Had he rushed out of there like hell fire, the left would still be discussing his rush to war.

JJ’s answer:
**** Exactly… GW was in a fucking class room full of children. Reading a book about a fucking GOAT. He never blinked an eye when he was told of the WORLDS worst terrorist attacts… he just kept on reading. Why? Cause the mother fucker KNEW it was going to happen.


Your answer:
6. 'CAUSE THEY WERE USING BOXCUTTERS!! That's what they are called. Go to Home Depot and ask for a box cutter and that is what they will give you.
Alot of people know a box cutter when they see one.

JJ’s reply:
**** Ok.. I work in construction… I have for 14 years. I know knives. Yes there are Box cutters… but what is the coincidence that every single person on those planes are going to CALL them box cutters? They could have said KNIVES.
I cant really argue to this question because… no one found the actual knives. If they where NOT all box cutters… this would be a better argument. Again, the indestructible pass ports made it without a burn but… no box cutters to be found.****

Your answer:
7. Hellooooo....the planes that crashed into the WTC
MELTED the steel gurders, well over 2700 degrees,
(the temp in which steel melts), so it is unlikely that, unless they were made out of krytonite, they did not survive the crash. Ditto for the Pentagon. The only one that may have survived may have been the PA crash, which I am sure they have examined. The public really doesn't need to hear the sound of that crash and the horror that preceeded it. Or, check the freedom of imformation act if you really want to know.

JJ’s reply:
**** Hellooooo…. “UNDESTRUCTABLE BLACK BOXES” … this means they are MADE to withstand the fire and HEAT generated from JET FUEL. They always HAVE before? There was NOTHING in those buildings to generate a more powerful heat. Dude… come on, this is common since.
You going to tell me they found all those fucking paper pass ports but cant get ONE SINGLE UNDESTRUTABLE BLACK BOX? If you believe that one then you are helpless my friend.
The fucking pentagon crash was a NORMAL jet crash… so was the Pennsylvania crash. Still… NO BLACK BOXES. Doesn’t that seem a little … Hmmm coincidental? Pretty convenient as well… if your HIDING SOMETHING.

http://www.rense.com/general48/secondhijackerpass.htm


Your answer:
8.Have to research that one.

JJ’s answer:
*** Let me help you research this one my friend:
FISA (The Foreign Intelligence Security Act of 1978)
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/001978.html

Do your research and I will tell you the correct answer to your reply.

Your answer:
9. He didn't. He was in that school.

JJ’s reply:*************

Ok… I gotcha on this one: THESE ARE ACTUAL QUOTES MY FRIEND
“QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?
BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE)
Thank you, Jordan (ph).
Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."
But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."
Here is your proof… you can listen YOUR SELF then defend your LYING president.
**broken link removed**
HE COULDN’T HAVE SEEN THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT HAD ALREADY HIT… IT WAS NOT LIVE. THE FIRST PLANE WAS NEVER AIRED ON TV UNTIL LATER THAT DAY!

Your answer:
10. Coincidence. Meetings are rescheduled every day when many people are required to be present at a meeting. Hey....what if a frog had wings?????

JJ’s reply: ***
Here is reason number 1…
**broken link removed**

Here is another….
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/wtc/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,6794009.story

Now to answer your question about “What if frogs had wings” .. or If your precious government told you they did… YOU WOULD BELIEVE IT … so why even ask?

Now.. there, I have answered your replies with REAL answers. Not just common since speculation … Go ahead… give me some more. I can back them just as I did the ones above.

I will say this once more time…. I do not care who likes G Bush. I do not care how many mind fucked government loyalties there are on this board. I love “America” and what it “used” to stand for. I hate… and YES there is a difference, the FUCKED UP GOVERNMENT that has RIUNED our ONCE …. Land of the free.

JJ Insane1
 
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u guys are nuts...



:D
 
I stand beside JJ and rAjjin, thats all i have to say, JD
 
I just want to start a pool to see hopw many posts this last before our bro Xcel locks it up. I say 13. LOL!!!!

Ive learned to stay out of it...although I have my opinions of course. But everyone is entitled to a degree, within the rules of course.
 
Here is my opinion...

I dislike our president. I disapprove of our government. I do not think its right that our brave soldiers are used as "pawns" in a money war. I do not think its right that our government sends our children, brothers, sisters... fathers ect over to another country to fight when we have bigger problems here.
I do not care if ANYONE agrees with my opinions and beliefs. I appreciate those who do, and even more i respect the ones who have enough "pride" to speak up.
I also have respect for those who disagree with my opinions as well. After all... i think that is one thing that would be hard for our government to take away... our opinions.
Sure, they lie to try and control them but when the dust settles... its ultimately up to us.
I STRONGLY disagree with the bull shit patriot act. Its a way for the government to use "faults" fear tactics to get us to agree with them and take away our FREEDOM and RIGHTS.

Now, that being said.... i have absolutely NOTHING to do with my friends in the bodybuilding world (you guys).
We are ALL in this game to GROW and better our selfesteem. We are ALL brothers of iron.... regardless of our government beliefs.
So... to all those who "hate" or want to bash the "liberal" JJ insane1... go head !
I know deep down inside u still love me ... :)

I am to old to argue with you young’ans

JJ Insane1
 
oh yeah well.....

"HITLER" lol.. that was a joke. Damn politics...
 
Ill go 23 Mike

Enough to get it good and heated \
before it gets Plum NastI`
 
I know some have to vent ............but none here have access to exactly what went on or what happened..........all conjecture and hypothetical rhetoric at this point..............Bottom line is Muslim Extremists hate us....have for 100's of years.........they will always try to kill "infidels".They caused this shit ........Our current goverment dropped the ball.........so did Clinton,Reagan,Bush Sr., Jimmy Carter all of them catered to whatever was favorable at time........instead of solving the issue with these animals then. The Ollie North shit.........go read some transcripts from his testimony, he way back then "Said, " Osama Bin Laden " is the evilest person alive and a enemy of the United States..............he was laughed at a little bit by the then congressional inquiry board.
 
Let em discuss this. These posts are good reading and attract more attention and posts than any others. I do know to always stay out of them but I do like to read them lol
 
well im tossing my cards in

Even if i had a ace in the hole lol , im all burned out on this matter and everything i say people start bashin me with personal attacks so id rather not get this thread locked up, but i must post this pic.

WELL IM A MOVING OUT WEST CAUSE I WANNA BE A !!!COWBOY!!! BABY WHERE THE SUNSHINE SHINES AND THE SUN SHINE SHINNING !!!COWBOY!!! SPEND ALL MY TIME AT HOLYWOOD AND DINNING !!COWBOY!! DRINKING ALL NIGHT SO I CAN SLEEP ALL DAY !!COWBOY!! OH I CAN SMELL A PIG FROM A MILE AWAY COWBOY!!! CAUSE I WANNA BE A !!!COWBOY!!! BABY ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,COWBOY RUNNING.

ahahahahahhahaaaaaa yea DUBYA ahgahahahahahaaa are you kiddin me this dude rules :D
 

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Its like NHB with words.:D

"Are you ready?"

"Are you ready?"

"Lets get it on!!"

-Big John McCarthy
 
LMAO

Yea that pic there just about says it all :)

I like the one where his old wrinkled up ass is
running around dressed like he is a navy seal.

Or what about when Ole Cowboy was bucked off
his Astro scooter ;)
YeaH BUddy! hes the Man.
 
MAN IF HE DOESNT LOOK JUST LIKE THE MARLBORRO MAN

DANM HES ONE SMOOTH CAT, AND A BAD ASS COWBOY WITH A BIG ASS HAT TO SHOW .


DUBYA IS FUCKING HILARIOUS , YOU GOTTA LOVE HOW COOL AND HOW TUFF HE CAN BE AND AT THE SAME TIME REMAIN SMOOTH AS A CAT . NOW THATS A GREAT PRESIDENT. HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 

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I agree with JJ too. Vander ..you stated that you are a conservative which is a choice for everyone to make, but do you stand for conservative views? Like the views which banned pro hormones, effedra, etc ? Just a question, not looking for a pissing match..lol
 
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I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

MikeS said:
I just want to start a pool to see hopw many posts this last before our bro Xcel locks it up. I say 13. LOL!!!!

Ive learned to stay out of it...although I have my opinions of course. But everyone is entitled to a degree, within the rules of course.

Not including this post, and Xcels post to lock it up - I hit it on the nose!!! 13 posts!
Dont I win something? Dont answer that...:D
 
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