so 400mg wont put your blood levels in the proper ranges?
how about the member on this thread who posted his doc had to take him from 200 to 400mg.. apparently 200 was not enough for this person.
Well,the original poster stated
I'm in the middle of a cycle now anyway
So I am pretty sure by that statement
NO BLOODWORK was involved!!
I think we all agree 400 mg weekly
To Start is excessive right?
Now, I find it hard to believe that 400 mg doesn't/cant put even the most resiliant, hyper excreter or whatever the issue in the top of normal range. I also have to say that would be VERY rare.I really would like to see a chart with bloodwork backing that up.
We have already discussed longevity and life extension clinics.They believe/goal is getting patients FEELING better and using higher doses.
They arent as concerned with Quest labs or Lab corps ranges."Feeling better" is subjective and bodybuilders are going to say they need more and need more until the doc finally says "thats my limit".Wether it be 300 or 400 which is not uncommon from those establishments.
I will say again,There has been recent legislation that will change this over time.Drug databases are huge as these guys use compounding pharmacies in which they have relationships ex.
signature pharmacy Orlando,FL will change.Thats how they got around alot of legalities.Out of State Mail order pharmacies was another way. Google:
Signature pharmacy if you don't know what I am referring to.
Sust, I can PM you the names of a couple places that you can send bloodwork,fill out a medical evaluation,pay a fee and get your high dosed stuff sent right to your doorstep for a pretty penny.Even if bloodwork is normal,if you put down all the symptoms of low T,which they conveniently list for you,lol.
We have to be more specific in this debate.Are we talking about REAL testosterone replacement with urologists,enocrinologists and some Family practictioners which use AMA and lab guidelines ? or anti-aging ,longevity (gray area) guidelines which are: for a big fee we will prescribe a cycle which makes you "feel" better? Also I should mention the dentists,radiologists,and pediatricians busted for writing scripts for these places for patients over the net.
This isn't an argument about personal decisions of using AAS or at what dose as some have mistakenly or ignorantly tried to imply.