What’s your gh dosage ?

[JJT]

Chasing the insulin with carbs puts those carbs into the muscles as glycogen = More fuel ; endurance strength / more pumped muscles.


Did you take the T4 the day of the blood work (Before the blood draw)? This will raise the lab result around 15-20%. So it's a good idea to skip that day.

Chasing the insulin with carbs? do you mean the other way around?

Wouldnt the excess carbs just result in fat gain?

 

[Mayhem]

Yes, T4 was taken on the day of the blood work. Went into a walk-in clinic to get a blood requisition, thinking I would be scheduling a date and be able to adjust timing of supps and be fasted. Instead they decided to do the BW onsite. Not the wisest move on the Dr, considering I was there to get my A1C tested.

 

[Fleezy]

Wouldnt the excess carbs just result in fat gain?

yes

 

[Black Beard]

Yes, T4 was taken on the day of the blood work. Went into a walk-in clinic to get a blood requisition, thinking I would be scheduling a date and be able to adjust timing of supps and be fasted. Instead they decided to do the BW onsite. Not the wisest move on the Dr, considering I was there to get my A1C tested.

A1C won't be affect by eating the same, so youre good to go. (A1C measures about 3 months of average blood sugar). hba1c stands for glycated hemoglobin, glycation is a chemical reaction that happens when red blood cells come into contact with sugar. So by measuring the % of red blood cells that have been glycated, we can tell how high or low your blood sugar has been in the last 3 months (Since Red blood cell lifecycle is about 3 months)


Next time, skip the T4 the day of the test. Your Free T4 is likely closer to 1 ng/dL which is a "sluggish" level. ( True normal is something like 1.4-1.7 ng/dL)

 

[Andysmurray]

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[Mayhem]

A1C won't be affect by eating the same, so youre good to go. (A1C measures about 3 months of average blood sugar). hba1c stands for glycated hemoglobin, glycation is a chemical reaction that happens when red blood cells come into contact with sugar. So by measuring the % of red blood cells that have been glycated, we can tell how high or low your blood sugar has been in the last 3 months (Since Red blood cell lifecycle is about 3 months)


Next time, skip the T4 the day of the test. Your Free T4 is likely closer to 1 ng/dL which is a "sluggish" level. ( True normal is something like 1.4-1.7 ng/dL)

Ok, good to know about the A1C, as I was thinking I should have been fasted. More BW getting done this week, and I will be skipping the T4 as I agree, that the levels are probably lower than they should be without the T4. Once I get the results back, I'm going to decide if I should stay at the 50mcg dose or bump to 100mcg. Still running the GH at 17iu day.

 

[rotinaj]

What do you guys like for the higher doses causing water retention?

At 6iu my socks left literal dents in my shins even with restricting sodium.

Planning to push to 10iu~ next time around but worried about the water weight…

Add HCTZ?

 

[madg]

What do you guys like for the higher doses causing water retention?

At 6iu my socks left literal dents in my shins even with restricting sodium.

Planning to push to 10iu~ next time around but worried about the water weight…

Add HCTZ?

I would not take diuretic to take gh but that just me

 

[rotinaj]

I would not take diuretic to take gh but that just me

It can be equated to taking insulin or metformin to manage sugars as a prophylactic/ancillary medication.

HGH is known to cause edema which causes hypertension, stress on the heart, and the paresthesia(numbness/tingling) from the pressure on your nerves.

I’m just curious which diuretic is complimentary with the least negatives.
(I want my kidneys to stay alive)

 

[VakarianSK]

What do you guys like for the higher doses causing water retention?

At 6iu my socks left literal dents in my shins even with restricting sodium.

Planning to push to 10iu~ next time around but worried about the water weight…

Add HCTZ?

Add hydrochlorothiazide in. It's a popular diuretic used to treat high blood pressure and is often in a combined formulation with telimasartan. After adding this to my regime I don't experience many GH related side effects. Most negative side effects are caused by water retention in one way or another.

 

[bigzzz]

Add hydrochlorothiazide in. It's a popular diuretic used to treat high blood pressure and is often in a combined formulation with telimasartan. After adding this to my regime I don't experience many GH related side effects. Most negative side effects are caused by water retention in one way or another.

Do sponsors sell hydro?

 

[slesh]

Hahahhahahahahhahahahhahaha

 

[VakarianSK]

Do sponsors sell hydro?

Possibly, you'll have to look around.

 

[MackCoach]

I get great results on 4 iu’s a day
Like immediately better pumps and noticeably leaner right away

That being said I just bumped to 6 units a day this week

Gonna do 4 AM then 2 PM

 

[madg]

It can be equated to taking insulin or metformin to manage sugars as a prophylactic/ancillary medication.

HGH is known to cause edema which causes hypertension, stress on the heart, and the paresthesia(numbness/tingling) from the pressure on your nerves.

I’m just curious which diuretic is complimentary with the least negatives.
(I want my kidneys to stay alive)

I not use slin too to stay on gh , i go off and resensitize IF BG go up

i was on tp blacks at half vial ed and was shredded many pics here of me

Maybe your diet is problem , hydration or high bf %

Solution is not throw more drugs to combat sides from drugs

But this is just me

 

[rotinaj]

Maybe your diet is problem , hydration or high bf %

Solution is not throw more drugs to combat sides from drugs

But this is just me

I’ve tracked my diet for 15 years and had abs the entire time I spent gaining 100lb of lbm.. it’s not my diet.

The solution is exactly more drugs for the drugs. You’re on a competitive bodybuilding forum, ancillary medications keep many of these members alive lol.

I assume you think people should never take AI’s and just lower their Test dose since apparently more drugs is objectively bad.

 

[madg]

I’ve tracked my diet for 15 years and had abs the entire time I spent gaining 100lb of lbm.. it’s not my diet.

The solution is exactly more drugs for the drugs. You’re on a competitive bodybuilding forum, ancillary medications keep many of these members alive lol.

I assume you think people should never take AI’s and just lower their Test dose since apparently more drugs is objectively bad.

That is solution to you

I do this 16 years with 0 health problems

To each his own we not have to agree

“The solution is more drugs “ ye i see that from the 100s of deaths last 5 years

What reason is there for my test dosage ?

I was 100kg at 1,75 sub 8% bf , how about you ?

 

[rotinaj]

What reason is there for my test dosage ?

I was 100kg at 1,75 sub 8% bf , how about you ?

The reasoning is that when doses increase, as they do in most competitors, you have to take precautions to be safe.

Higher doses of testosterone create more estrogen via aromatization, thus need aromatase inhibitors(more drugs).

Higher doses of GH create more edema, raise BP, and glycemic complications, etc, thus need glucose agents like insulin, diuretics to reduce water and thus BP, manage blood sugar… (aka more drugs).

Telling people “I just go off n on” and that ancillary medications are inherently bad is dangerous.

And as for your stats, I’m heavier and just as lean right now, so let’s stay on topic pls.

 

[madg]

The reasoning is that when doses increase, as they do in most competitors, you have to take precautions to be safe.

Higher doses of testosterone create more estrogen via aromatization, thus need aromatase inhibitors(more drugs).

Higher doses of GH create more edema, raise BP, and glycemic complications, etc, thus need glucose agents like insulin, diuretics to reduce water and thus BP, manage blood sugar… (aka more drugs).

Telling people “I just go off n on” and that ancillary medications are inherently bad is dangerous.

And as for your stats, I’m heavier and just as lean right now, so let’s stay on topic pls.

Lets leave it here but heavier mean fk all just fyi

To each his own … your logic is why ppl dieing now and didnt in the 80s

I told you we not have to agree, you can take 3000 drugs to combat your 10 drugs

Your life your choice

Have a great day

 

[aHarness]

“The solution is more drugs “ ye i see that from the 100s of deaths last 5 years

And they died from… what? taking a blood pressure medication?