What’s your gh dosage ?

[madg]

And they died from… what? taking a blood pressure medication?

Lol man really

 

[aHarness]

Lol man really

You’re the one implying that, not me lol

 

[madg]

you must be bit retarded eh ? And i never call out ppl

Count how many have died last 5 years only here and tell me … what they died from?????

Let me help you : abuse of drugs

If you take 1 g test and have bp of 17 … guess what sherlock ??? You not meant to be a shw

Ppl not like this but not all can be 250+ the deaths we see is cause ppl can accept their genetic limitation and hammer the drugs … and for whatt ? Deformed pbysiques that look like goblins ?

Im here 12 years first time i get in a conversation like this

Now i understand why ppl not come here

Keep pounding the drugs and if you get high bp hell take all telmisartan box , why take one pill ? Maybe after you can run 8g test

 

[aHarness]

Count how many have died last 5 years only here and tell me … what they died from?????

Let me help you : abuse of drugs

Yes but you were lecturing that user about using an ancillary to AID IN HIS HEALTH. You’re making a false comparison then calling us retarded.

 

[aHarness]

Im here 12 years first time i get in a conversation like this

Now i understand why ppl not come here

Also, you’ve been here 12 years and have one negative interaction for the first time and “now you understand why people don’t come here”? Unless you’ve never had any other interactions here, that seems like a pretty good ratio to me but whatever. Feel free to leave if you’re going to be sensitive and call people retarded over a minor debate.

 

[madg]

Yes but you were lecturing that user about using an ancillary to AID IN HIS HEALTH. You’re making a false comparison then calling us retarded.

TO AID YOUR HEALTH RETARD YOU DROP THE DOSE THAT GIVE PROBLEMS YOU NOT KEEP THE DOSE AND HAMMER MORE DRUGS


You know what ? Is time i take a break from here

Now go take more drugs to “aid” tour heath

 

[M@NU]

you must be bit retarded eh ? And i never call out ppl

Count how many have died last 5 years only here and tell me … what they died from?????

Let me help you : abuse of drugs

If you take 1 g test and have bp of 17 … guess what sherlock ??? You not meant to be a shw

Ppl not like this but not all can be 250+ the deaths we see is cause ppl can accept their genetic limitation and hammer the drugs … and for whatt ? Deformed pbysiques that look like goblins ?

Im here 12 years first time i get in a conversation like this

Now i understand why ppl not come here

Keep pounding the drugs and if you get high bp hell take all telmisartan box , why take one pill ? Maybe after you can run 8g test

there are quite a bit speculations that the deaths of many professional sportsmen in the last 4 years has nothing to do with drugs but with Covid and the "countermeasurement" to that.
I dont want to dive to deep into that but even professional medicals are more and more convinced that covid and its "countermeasurement" played havoc in many bodies..
(Countermeasurements because i am not sure if i am allowed to use the real word)

 

[madg]

there are quite a bit speculations that the deaths of many professional sportsmen in the last 4 years has nothing to do with drugs but with Covid and the "countermeasurement" to that.
I dont want to dive to deep into that but even professional medicals are more and more convinced that covid and its "countermeasurement" played havoc in many bodies..
(Countermeasurements because i am not sure if i am allowed to use the real word)

Sry manu but time i take some time off

I wish the best to all of you

Madg out

 

[M@NU]

Sry manu but time i take some time off

I wish the best to all of you

Madg out

i didnt mean to say it is always the solution to take drugs to take more drugs.
But i just wanted to mention that the deaths of professional sportsmen (and those were not only bodybuilders) might not be an issue with high drugs only

 

[blackjack]

Do sponsors sell hydro?

Still got the bloat bro?!

Of course you come flying in as soon as someone recommends something for water retention. At least you're consistent!

 

[slesh]

Still got the bloat bro?!

Of course you come flying in as soon as someone recommends something for water retention. At least you're consistent!

 

[aHarness]

TO AID YOUR HEALTH RETARD YOU DROP THE DOSE THAT GIVE PROBLEMS YOU NOT KEEP THE DOSE AND HAMMER MORE DRUGS


You know what ? Is time i take a break from here

Now go take more drugs to “aid” tour heath

This is a bodybuilding forum. Bodybuilding requires abusing steroids/PEDs. Flat out.

I’m not judging you for not wanting to take ancillaries. If you don’t want to, then don’t. That’s fine if you’d rather lower your drug load.

However there is another competitor out there who isn’t scared of taking a BP med that will keep pushing, and keeping his blood pressure in check (or heart rate with a beta blocker, lipids with a statin/ezetimibe etc). Like I said, this is bodybuilding. People are going to push the limits. Why it bothers you so much that people are using pharmaceutical options to manage their health and allow them to continue pushing while maintaining their health is odd to me.

 

[Black Beard]

What’s even stranger for me is whether I was taking 5iu or 15iu I was always having issues waking up in the morning. And I was either pinning in the morning pre fasted cardio or 2 hours later pre lift. So never after 1pm. Now that I’m off at like 5am I’m wide awake. Before my alarm would go off at 7am and there would be days when I wouldn’t get out of bed until 8:30-9. And it wasn’t even good sleep…

I think when I start GH again I might just keep it at 3iu a day and if I still have that issue I might be done with it for good which I know sounds crazy coming from me lol.

Hey Slesh, curious if you ever figured out your waking up issue with the GH?

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Sry manu but time i take some time off

I wish the best to all of you

Madg out

For real? lol but if you need to reevaluate your time on the board and doubttt whether to post here because you went back and forth with someone, maybe this shit isn't for you. Toughen uppp.

 

[3BILLS]

7.35 iu. It's a tough measure

 

[slesh]

Hey Slesh, curious if you ever figured out your waking up issue with the GH?

Ehhh I believe so. Seems like half a vial of blacks is my sweet spot. Anything more and the mornings really suck.

 

[jl9987]

A lot of mixed opinions in here which is nice to see.

Seems like, once over 10iu most will get some water unless you take like jardiance or hctz, but then taking stuff to negate water can't be good either? I mean if taking HCTZ has no negatives than I can see why people would do it.

Not everyone needs T4 with higher dose HGH do they?

And not everyone needs metformin for BG levels on higher dose hgh...

Would it be your just get like thyroid tests along with BG/HBA1C checked every 3 - 4 weeks on higher doses?

For those who have ran like 10+ iu, how would like 15iu, compare to 10iu, compare to 5iu if all other variables stayed the same?

 

[Poonami]

I have to stay under 5iu. So I’m usually on 3-5iu first thing AM. On Retatrutide also. But my feet and hands have definitely grown. My knee too actually. Got a sweet MRI to prove it. Btw I’m mid 40s. My feet have gone from 11 or 11.5 to a 12 or 12.5 in the last 20 months or so. But I did run about 6-8 iu of gold tops during that time.

i think ive only used pharma once. It was Geno pens. Smells like a pediatrician’s office when reconstituted. I love that smell.

ive used a shitload of different generics. Gold/yellow tops were the most effective so far for me but that was years ago. Sure would love to be able to afford pharma grade. Especially if it came with a fresh script for it

 

[madg]

A lot of mixed opinions in here which is nice to see.

Seems like, once over 10iu most will get some water unless you take like jardiance or hctz, but then taking stuff to negate water can't be good either? I mean if taking HCTZ has no negatives than I can see why people would do it.

Not everyone needs T4 with higher dose HGH do they?

And not everyone needs metformin for BG levels on higher dose hgh...

Would it be your just get like thyroid tests along with BG/HBA1C checked every 3 - 4 weeks on higher doses?

For those who have ran like 10+ iu, how would like 15iu, compare to 10iu, compare to 5iu if all other variables stayed the same?

I get zero water or bg problems on 10iu TP black tops

When my order here and i start ill take pics

I think key is being lean eating clean and doing cardio

Even when i was 25 pushing 2,5 g and 10iu i never had water or bg problem

Clean diet
No cheat meal
30 min cardio
10 k steps
High volume training

Never problem even 800 carbs

With gh i get water inside muscle